Reason enough to leave?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

They should consider breast feeding.

That might help space them out a little farther.

As to your question...

This alone wouldn't be enough for me to leave... maybe... I'm not sure.

But it would be enough for me to be very wary of what is going on and would, in all probability, end up with the same result.

Breastfeeding is taught as the ONLY way to feed the wee ones..... No need to stop at one (or two) years either!

But.... if there was ever a worse means of natural birth control, the "breast feeding" method has to rank up there as the number one worst. About as effective as the "I sure hope this doesn't happen!" method.

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Oh please... the preaching get too hard?! A ton of other religions have standards concerning sexual relations... even within marriage. Plus, the Israelites, ALL 3 million of them (so a few hundred thousand) married couples did this and they were fine. Now, as for it being binding on NT believers, well I don't know about that, but I surely wouldn't have left. I would have listened dilligently, and studied like the Bereans did. I would have consulted with the pastor(s) and others. Who knows, maybe I'd be one who would "see the light" in this teaching. I haven't come across any of these people, and am not married and neither do I pastor married people (or anyone for that matter), so I have no need of this teaching, but that doesn't mean I'd just discard it. Proverbs 18:13 says, "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." I'm not all for sticking with a church for anything, obviously, I'd leave for bad doctrine, but this is a standard, taught in sincerity and through study, deserves the consideration of those who are present at the study, and it can be studied, debated, ect...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

[RandyWayne]

I only posted three pages of the standard handout. There was also a multi page study guide with even more ludicrous positions in it.
In other posts I told the story of a young lady who had just gotten married and was sitting in this class. She is "cursed" with a very irregular period which can last from 3 to 14 days and seems to come at random times. She was told point blank that nothing can "happen" during this period AND during the 7 days following due to the Levitical cleansing period. Throw into the mix that "nothing was to happen" on Sunday or Sat night (because it is of course proceeded by Sunday -in a Monty Pythonisque sort of way), and their sex life was reduced down to a couple of days a month.
A few months after we left, she called my wife in tears because her AND HER HUSBAND got to "fooling around" on a... <gasp>.... Sunday afternoon and she was racked with guilt because she had gone against the pastors teachings on marital sex.
In this case there are THREE people at fault: The pastor for throwing this ridiculas doctrine at people and denying to them everything that God has granted, and 2) This lady for LISTENING to him and 3) her husband for not putting his foot down.

But yes, when strange doctrine rears its ugly head, I very much feel like you need to run as fast as your chubby little legs will carry you.

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

But yes, when strange doctrine rears its ugly head, I very much feel like you need to run as fast as your chubby little legs will carry you.

Now don't get me started on gluttony brother!
If it's bad teaching, sure, get out of that assembly if GOD gives you the release... BUT to leave a study just because it looks too strict/difficult whatever, I don't believe is wise and it is not hearing out a matter.
I do think, again to the Israelites concerning this, and they did it and were ok. It is not IMPOSSIBLE, the question is whether it is necessary. I think the preacher I got "saved" (really convinced of the Apostolic message, he didn't baptize me) under preached a separation of the women when they were in their "unclean time." His church also had segregated seating between the men and women. They later added some bad doctrines, so much so they are no longer brethren ... Anyways, I hope all works out with your wife's old church.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Now don't get me started on gluttony brother!
If it's bad teaching, sure, get out of that assembly if GOD gives you the release... BUT to leave a study just because it looks too strict/difficult whatever, I don't believe is wise and it is not hearing out a matter.
I do think, again to the Israelites concerning this, and they did it and were ok. It is not IMPOSSIBLE, the question is whether it is necessary. I think the preacher I got "saved" (really convinced of the Apostolic message, he didn't baptize me) under preached a separation of the women when they were in their "unclean time." His church also had segregated seating between the men and women. They later added some bad doctrines, so much so they are no longer brethren ... Anyways, I hope all works out with your wife's old church.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

God love ya, Bro Alex, but you seem to be very wise beyond your years. Never stop learing.

You are right, anytime you see self-indulgence in any form, you will always find that it is only the tip of the iceberg. Beneath is a large chunk of Pharaseeism, legalism, bondage, and other sins as well. Anything associated with the law brings a curse. Bro-Larry

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Anything associated with the law brings a curse.

I found this last sentence to be interesting... Is this true brethren? Isn't the law good, as Paul said? Isn't it a schoolmaster? Isn't the Law of the Lord perfect, converting the soul? Or did I take all those phrases out of context, and maybe make up a few phrases? I'm not trying to be critical (in a bad sense), I just want to get a better understanding of this sentence given to us by Bro. Larry.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

[RandyWayne]

Because when you choose to follow the law you are judged by the law. A very scary proposition.

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Anything associated with the law brings a curse.

If by 'the law' you mean the law of sin and death, then yes you're right.

If by 'the law' you mean God's Law, the Mitzvah given to Moses and the Children of Israel, you have absolutely no idea of what you speak.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Because when you choose to follow the law you are judged by the law. A very scary proposition.

No... not so much...

[Ron]

That is what's being taught?