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12-11-2007, 12:26 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Originally Posted by vrblackwell
I'll brake it down for you. lol
You said the following
"He's also extremely weak on immigration policy border security which could potentially be dangerous to all of us in this era of terrorism".
The tuition issue does not make him weak on the border nor on immigration. He is for securing the border. Watch his new commercial below.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8M0orIN3Pyc
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It doesn't matter anyways since i'm voting Democratic
Oprah's got me about convinced to vote for Obama
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12-11-2007, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
It doesn't matter anyways since i'm voting Democratic
Oprah's got me about convinced to vote for Obama
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So you would acually vote for someone who not only thinks it's ok to kill babies, but that would also use your tax dollar to do it.
To me when you vote for someone knowing that they not only think this is ok, but they also fund it, you become an accessory to the murders. JMHO.
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12-11-2007, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
It doesn't matter anyways since i'm voting Democratic
Oprah's got me about convinced to vote for Obama
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i CAN'T believe after all that campaign work for Hillary, you are gonna vote against her.
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12-11-2007, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
i CAN'T believe after all that campaign work for Hillary, you are gonna vote against her.
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12-11-2007, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
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How exactly were we "hoodwinked" by the present Commander in Chief?
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12-11-2007, 05:41 AM
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vblackwell, I'm liking you more and more! Keep their feet to the fire!
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12-11-2007, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by vrblackwell
With your clear hatred of Bush, and the fact that you get your news from people like Arianna Huffington you are clearly a liberal Democrat. Go ahead and vote for Clinton or Obama. Or for that fact a republican like Giuliani who thinks it is OK to murder babies, cheat on your wife, or be a homosexual.
Or you could vote for one of the other two republicans who really don't know were they stand when it comes to murdering babies. Romney ran on a pro-choice platform when running for governor of Massatuches, how convenient.
Thompson lobbied for an abortion group when the price was right.
Huckabee is far from perfect, but he is clearly the best choice. As far as Bush goes, he has not been perfect either. However, we have had the best economy ever in the history of the US under his administration.
He appointed two strict constructionist judges to the supreme court getting us closer to reversing Roe Vs. Wade. We have not had another attack by terrorist here in the US since nine eleven, and taxes were lowered. And to think, he did it all without cheating on his wife with another women in the oval office. Perfect no, but not bad.
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Your post was full of assumptions and was downright slanderous! You knew nothing about me, yet you wrote that I hated Bush and was a liberal democrat. You sir, were wrong on both accounts!
I merely posted facts that were readily available on the web regarding Huckabee's record. Furthermore, I have always been pro-life and have always voted Republican, except for the last Presidential election. I voted for Bush as Governor and during his first run for President, but I couldn't vote for him the second time because of his foreign policy mistakes. Bush obviously either lied to the American people or was the most inept President in history when he made the case to go to war with Iraq.
Where was the WMD? Where was the link between 911 and Saddam/Iraq? He has even admitted that there was no link between 911 and Saddam/Iraq. Was the Iraq war worth the lives of thousands of innocent civilian lives and military personnel? We saw the same rhetoric this year that he used to get us into the Iraq war when he tried to build a the case to go to war with Iran. Now, we have seen that his administration knew earlier this year that Iran had stopped their nuclear weapons program.
I was in the military and I have always loved my country. As a Christian, I have grieved when I have seen those poor innocent children die, because of the unjust war in Iraq. How would you feel if another country invaded America and killed our civilian population?
If you had taken the time to read the last sentence of my first posts on this thread, you would have noticed that I back Ron Paul for President. It was unfortunate that you had to turn this into a personal attack instead of a debate on the facts!
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12-11-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
Your post was full of assumptions and was downright slanderous! You knew nothing about me, yet you wrote that I hated Bush and was a liberal democrat. You sir, were wrong on both accounts!
I merely posted facts that were readily available on the web regarding Huckabee's record. Furthermore, I have always been pro-life and have always voted Republican, except for the last Presidential election. I voted for Bush as Governor and during his first run for President, but I couldn't vote for him the second time because of his foreign policy mistakes. Bush obviously either lied to the American people or was the most inept President in history when he made the case to go to war with Iraq.
Where was the WMD? Where was the link between 911 and Saddam/Iraq? He has even admitted that there was no link between 911 and Saddam/Iraq. Was the Iraq war worth the lives of thousands of innocent civilian lives and military personnel? We saw the same rhetoric this year that he used to get us into the Iraq war when he tried to build a the case to go to war with Iran. Now, we have seen that his administration knew earlier this year that Iran had stopped their nuclear weapons program.
I was in the military and I have always loved my country. As a Christian, I have grieved when I have seen those poor innocent children die, because of the unjust war in Iraq. How would you feel if another country invaded America and killed our civilian population?
If you had taken the time to read the last sentence of my first posts on this thread, you would have noticed that I back Ron Paul for President. It was unfortunate that you had to turn this into a personal attack instead of a debate on the facts!
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There was evidence of WMD but the media chose to cover it up, after all it is against "their" agenda.
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12-11-2007, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
Your post was full of assumptions and was downright slanderous! You knew nothing about me, yet you wrote that I hated Bush and was a liberal democrat. You sir, were wrong on both accounts!
I merely posted facts that were readily available on the web regarding Huckabee's record. Furthermore, I have always been pro-life and have always voted Republican, except for the last Presidential election. I voted for Bush as Governor and during his first run for President, but I couldn't vote for him the second time because of his foreign policy mistakes. Bush obviously either lied to the American people or was the most inept President in history when he made the case to go to war with Iraq.
Where was the WMD? Where was the link between 911 and Saddam/Iraq? He has even admitted that there was no link between 911 and Saddam/Iraq. Was the Iraq war worth the lives of thousands of innocent civilian lives and military personnel? We saw the same rhetoric this year that he used to get us into the Iraq war when he tried to build a the case to go to war with Iran. Now, we have seen that his administration knew earlier this year that Iran had stopped their nuclear weapons program.
I was in the military and I have always loved my country. As a Christian, I have grieved when I have seen those poor innocent children die, because of the unjust war in Iraq. How would you feel if another country invaded America and killed our civilian population?
If you had taken the time to read the last sentence of my first posts on this thread, you would have noticed that I back Ron Paul for President. It was unfortunate that you had to turn this into a personal attack instead of a debate on the facts!
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I was not meaning to turn anything into a personal attack. If you took it that way I apologize, I could have worded it differently.
However, I totally disagree with you about Bush and the war. We should have brought them into compliance many years earlier. They signed a surrender treaty from the the first war. They did not live up to it. The fact of war is that people get killed. That's sad. However, I challenge you to sit down and figure how many innocent civilians were killed, tortured, and raped under the regime of Saddam.
If I had to live in fear everyday of my 10 year old daughter being taken out of class to be taken to Saddam's son to be raped I would be praying for a country like America to come invade.
I have old military buddies that are still serving with the 222 Infantry and 75 Ranger regiment that have been there on the ground in the think of it all from the beginning. They tell me a different story then what you are reading and hearing by a biased, liberal news media.
Was everything done perfectly? NO! Was there a lot of bad decisions made? Yes! There will be bad decisions made by any president that serves. They are human. Abraham Lincoln was considered at his time to be a horrible president. He made a lot of bad decisions as well. However, he is now remembered as one of the best presidents to serve.
As far as Iran. If you buy the story that they are not enriching uranium I have a beach house here in Missouri I will sell you.
They still will not let inspectors in. I wonder why?
I would vote for the a republican with the IQ of ten who was pro life before I would for a Democrat who believes in murdering babies.
I apologize again for painting you as a liberal or a Bush hater. However, when someone tells me they get their news from the biased, liberal sources that you stated, such as the Huffington post, I cannot help being led to believe that.
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12-11-2007, 10:10 AM
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- While presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee is surging in new polls of GOP candidates, a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Tuesday shows he would lose to all three leading Democratic candidates by double digits in hypothetical contests.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has doubled his support nationally among GOP voters, a poll says.
In head-to-head matchups -- the first to include Huckabee -- the former Arkansas governor loses to Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York by 10 percentage points (54 percent to 44 percent), to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois by 15 points (55 percent to 40 percent) and to former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina by 25 points (60 percent to 35 percent).
The poll comes on the heels of a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Monday that showed Huckabee doubled his support nationally among likely Republican voters in the last month and is in a statistical dead heat with former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. View complete poll results
But Huckabee's double-digit deficits with the leading Democrats likely suggest that the Arkansas Republican still lacks widespread name recognition nationally, according to Keating Holland, CNN's polling director. Video Watch as CNN's Bill Schneider analyzes changes in the races »
"Americans tend not to support candidates they're not familiar with, and it's possible Huckabee's numbers are low in these hypothetical matchups because he is still not very well known nationally," Holland said.
The poll also shows that Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona would do best against leading Democrats. He beats Clinton by 2 percentage points (50 percent to 48 percent), ties Obama (48 percent to 48 percent) and loses to Edwards by a smaller margin (8 points) than the other Republican candidates do.
In addition to Huckabee, Giuliani and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney lose to all three top Democrats in the survey.
On the Democratic side, Edwards performs best against each of the leading Republicans. In addition to beating Huckabee by 25 percent and McCain by 8 percent, the North Carolina Democrat beats Romney by 22 percentage points (59 percent to 37 percent).
While the survey shows McCain and Edwards performing best in their respective fields, both candidates continue to significantly trail their parties' front-runners significantly. In the national horse race numbers released Monday, McCain trails Giuliani by 11 percentage points, and Edwards is behind Clinton by 26 percentage points.
"Edwards is the only Democrat who beats all four Republicans, and McCain is the only Republican who beats any of the three Democrats," Holland said. "Some might argue this shows that they are the most electable candidates in their respective parties.
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"But Edwards is in third place among Democrats, and McCain is in fourth place on the GOP side. Maybe electability is not as important as it was in 2004."
The poll, conducted between Thursday and Sunday, surveyed 912 registered voters. It carries a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/...ead/index.html
Again, once Huckabee starts gaining national spotlight as a frontrunner, he is going to fold under the pressure. He has too many "questionable" judgement calls in his past.
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