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Old 08-19-2016, 12:23 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

well, what is "Atheist" but a label applied to some words? Many claim atheist to avoid being labelled religious, or to avoid pointless discussions, perhaps. And you imagine that good fruit is subjective--when it is this first concept that is--and not objective, meaning good fruit, or manifesting the gifts of the Spirit, would be considered offensive to any believer, and not defined by me. It is up to you to define good fruit and bad fruit, that your heart may be revealed to all.
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:45 PM
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well, what is "Atheist" but a label applied to some words? Many claim atheist to avoid being labelled religious, or to avoid pointless discussions, perhaps. And you imagine that good fruit is subjective--when it is this first concept that is--and not objective, meaning good fruit, or manifesting the gifts of the Spirit, would be considered offensive to any believer, and not defined by me. It is up to you to define good fruit and bad fruit, that your heart may be revealed to all.
The Internet and YouTube has messed you up completely?
Are you bed ridden where you can't get out of the house? Stuck in front of the computer? Dude, just a label? Like girl or boy? Atheist means what it means. The word ἄθεος actually means without gods, therefore anyone adopting that label is unlike you serious about what they believe. They don't believe in anything supernatural. We aren't talking about the world according to you, because you make it up as you go along. Someone calling themselves an atheist just to avoid being labeled religious would be how old? A teenager? Or someone who really doesn't care about honesty? Is that your world? People who use definitions because they are dishonest with themselves?

Once again, you were asked a direct question but decided to not answer it directly. More of your convoluted Internet Meme Psychobabble.

Good grief.
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:49 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

People who use definitions because they are dishonest with themselves?

people are conflicted, and their words usually do not match their actions
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people are conflicted, and their words usually do not match their actions
Are you speaking Freudian again?

Hoss, you sure do a lot of pyschological projecting.
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

I haven't logged in in a while, but this was an interesting thread to have pop up. Quite a few specific prophecies here. I hope we don't end up having to stone anybody. :-)
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I haven't logged in in a while, but this was an interesting thread to have pop up. Quite a few specific prophecies here. I hope we don't end up having to stone anybody. :-)
What Prophecies are you referring to?
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

I didn't read the whole thread, but I did see an actual timetable for the end of the organization among other predictions.

(Just having some fun)
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:07 AM
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I did see an actual timetable for the end of the organization among other predictions.

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Hopefully you did notice this is a 7 year old thread? LOL!! Clearly 7 years later the UPC is still here.
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Hopefully you did notice this is a 7 year old thread? LOL!! Clearly 7 years later the UPC is still here.
I believe that was his point. LOL!
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