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07-16-2007, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rico
I can not believe this is even an issue. It seems so absurd. I mean, good grief, who cares whether God has reproductive organs to prove he's male? DUH?!?!?!
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Hey, I didn't start this thread and here you are discussing it like the rest of us.
The topic here is the Spirit, not the flesh.
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07-16-2007, 12:56 AM
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According to this Praxeas character, God created the Y chromosome. That is interesting.
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07-16-2007, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hey, I didn't start this thread and here you are discussing it like the rest of us.
The topic here is the Spirit, not the flesh.
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and whether or not the scriptures support the use of it ... to describe the Spirit of God ...
I have proven apparently that some translators play w/ the language and original intent of the writers ...
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07-16-2007, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I had someone tell us the other day that we weren't the Bride of Christ.
I have no idea after he explained what he meant - what he meant! LOL
I just smiled at him until he ran out of air. 
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Nobody said we aren't the bride of Christ, but the point was, before Dan twisted it, is that many greek words have gender and that does not make something a female person. Even the number 1 in greek has masculine, feminine and neuter forms.
It's really irrelevant, which has been my point since the beginning. These nouns and pronouns by themselves don't necessarily show a male or female or even a neuter PERSON. There is more to it than just the fact a word has gender.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-16-2007, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Nobody said we aren't the bride of Christ, but the point was, before Dan twisted it, is that many greek words have gender and that does not make something a female person. Even the number 1 in greek has masculine, feminine and neuter forms.
It's really irrelevant, which has been my point since the beginning. These nouns and pronouns by themselves don't necessarily show a male or female or even a neuter PERSON. There is more to it than just the fact a word has gender.
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Accepted .. however ... we would be fit to be tied if tomorrow a new KJV translation came out replacing all the its and he's in the Word with shes .... Words mean things
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07-16-2007, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
and whether or not the scriptures support the use of it ... to describe the Spirit of God ...
I have proven apparently that some translators play w/ the language and intent of the writers ...
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The translators used the word "it" because the noun in question is a neuter noun.
That's all. And, BTW, those translators were Trinitarian. They were not playing with the language. The greek word for spirit is Neuter.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-16-2007, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Accepted .. however ... we would be fit to be tied if tomorrow a new KJV translation came out replacing all the its and he's in the Word with shes .... Words mean things
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only if the noun or pronoun was originally feminine.
Again masculine nouns take a masculine pronoun. Neuter takes neuter. Feminine takes feminine
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-16-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The translators used the word "it" because the noun in question is a neuter noun.
That's all. And, BTW, those translators were Trinitarian. They were not playing with the language. The greek word for spirit is Neuter.
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And this does not harmonize w/ the rest of scripture ... Praxeas ...
God is a He in scripture the the NAS and NIV ... got it.
Simple ... its poor translation out of context .... by the KJV ...
This thread has made me more of NIV/NAS man.
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07-16-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by deseret
According to this Praxeas character, God created the Y chromosome. That is interesting.
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According to this "deseret" character, God has DNA....which is a material substance, which means God Himself was created. Perhaps Deseret is trying to pass himself (isn't deseret a girls name?) as a Mormon?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-16-2007, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
According to this "deseret" character, God has DNA....which is a material substance, which means God Himself was created. Perhaps Deseret is trying to pass himself (isn't deseret a girls name?) as a Mormon?
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I am not trying to pass myself off as a Mormon.
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