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06-14-2007, 10:03 AM
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I think what Mich mentioned earlier as one of her reasons for leaving and what Nate is also examining is a paradigm that forgets the priesthood of all saints ... all the functions are needed for the body to work well but there seems to be an inordinate focus on one or two ministries ...
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How does leaving a fellowship of believers fix this paradigm? Shouldn't one stay within the body to fix something?
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06-14-2007, 10:04 AM
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The danger is not being connected to the body by forsaking the fellowship with other believers.
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And I have stated that it is worrisome ... but it is not to say this situation is permanent ... her decision is recent ... we can encourage her to fellowship w/ a group that shares some of her doctrinal vies ... but to start implicating she's backslidden is just as worrisome.
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06-14-2007, 10:05 AM
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Exactly -- and for the record, I have never said at any time that there is no need for accountability -- or leadership -- any someone's life. I don't believe in degrading the positions of pastor (or whatever position is there) -- I do believe in elevating the saint, though... which many misconstrue as degrading the position of leadership.
Mich needs to find a group of people who have her best interests in mind and who will tell her the truth no matter what. The problem is that she hasn't found that group, yet. I've been lucky (I should say BLESSED) to have found, or have been sent, a solid group of people that I am submitted to -- I pray that Mich finds the same, if she hasn't already.
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What do you mean by 'elevating' the saint?
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06-14-2007, 10:05 AM
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How does leaving a fellowship of believers fix this paradigm? Shouldn't one stay within the body to fix something?
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Excuse me ... I think Mich has clearly stated she's fixed to the body but not the org ... let's keep our eye on the ball ....
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06-14-2007, 10:06 AM
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How does leaving a fellowship of believers fix this paradigm? Shouldn't one stay within the body to fix something?
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Is The Body bound up within a church? We are talking about a metaphor when speaking of The Body... it isn't perfect nor does it have boundaries. That's like say God is only within a church building. She hasn't stated that she has left The Body -- on a church, an organization.
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06-14-2007, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
And I have stated that it is worrisome ... but it is not to say this situation is permanent ... her decision is recent ... we can encourage her to fellowship w/ a group that shares some of her doctrinal vies ... but to start implicating she's backslidden is just as worrisome.
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I'm not implying she is backslidden at all. I believe she is making an unwise choice which for some could lead to a backslidden state. Hopefully it is temporary for Mich and God will lead her to a fellowship that will encourage her growth in the Lord.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-14-2007, 10:07 AM
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Coonskinner,
I share your concern that too many folks ignore the clear picture given in the Epistles of the importance of the "five fold ministry" in ones Christian walk.
Dan Scott talks about the heresay of people who live by that old song "Me and Jesus got our own thing goin' on".
You ought to post a little Bible Study on the five fold ministry as a new thread. I probably would not agree with all of it but I am sure I would much.
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I would be very interesting in reading this!
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06-14-2007, 10:08 AM
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Not my recommendation, but she can always do what some others have done.
Join the AoG.
I understand they are really good at healing.
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06-14-2007, 10:08 AM
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Is The Body bound up within a church? We are talking about a metaphor when speaking of The Body... it isn't perfect nor does it have boundaries. That's like say God is only within a church building. She hasn't stated that she has left The Body -- on a church, an organization.
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Herein lies the problem some will vehemently state the org or their doctrinal views are not the body ... but God forbid someone leaves their circle ... and oh boy ....
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06-14-2007, 10:09 AM
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Is The Body bound up within a church? We are talking about a metaphor when speaking of The Body... it isn't perfect nor does it have boundaries. That's like say God is only within a church building. She hasn't stated that she has left The Body -- on a church, an organization.
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Just wondering which church you attend?
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