Perplexed! - Page 28

Sarah · #**271** 10-07-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway

My wife and I have made a decision to start visiting around beginning this weekend. I'm not aware of a PCI type church in our area.

I'm going to sincerely be praying for you and your family, Mr Steinway. Just listen to the Lord....he won't steer you wrong!

deltaguitar · #**272** 10-07-2011, 08:47 AM

Mr. Steinway, why not try something totally different? I know you have pentecostal connections and heritage but wouldn't it be nice to just try something new.

The Acts29 network has many flourishing churches in cities all around you. The church I attend is part of this group. Though not anything close to Pentecostalism they are open to the gifts. Oneness doctrine wouldn't be accepted but at least you would have folks who are transparent and not the wishy washy stuff typical in the charismatic/former UPC crowd.

These churches are marked by their elder led leadership, transparent in operations, and strong biblical doctrine.

http://www.acts29network.org/churches/

seguidordejesus · #**273** 10-07-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Mr. Steinway, why not try something totally different? I know you have pentecostal connections and heritage but wouldn't it be nice to just try something new.

The Acts29 network has many flourishing churches in cities all around you. The church I attend is part of this group. Though not anything close to Pentecostalism they are open to the gifts. Oneness doctrine wouldn't be accepted but at least you would have folks who are transparent and not the wishy washy stuff typical in the charismatic/former UPC crowd.

These churches are marked by their elder led leadership, transparent in operations, and strong biblical doctrine.

http://www.acts29network.org/churches/

If he wanted to be a trinitarian, he could just stay at CC!

deltaguitar · #**274** 10-07-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

If he wanted to be a trinitarian, he could just stay at CC!

I think it is more than that. It is the slight up hand and trying to please the old guard and making light of their beliefs that is upsetting.

The problem is that pentecosalism is dying out and the young folks coming up are not going to be interested in trying to mesh the old with the new and things like this will keep happening. The Oneness pentecostal world is so small that very few of the young people coming out of seminaries will be able to relate with the subcultures of OP.

Why can't the pastor just come out and say, look, this is what we were and we are still sensitive to the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostals, but over time we have decided that we do not subscribe to those beliefs anymore and it that we do not want to be at odds with the rest of the christian world.

Sherri · #**275** 10-07-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway

My wife and I have made a decision to start visiting around beginning this weekend. I'm not aware of a PCI type church in our area.

Two words--
JACKSON COMMUTE!!

Falla39 · #**276** 10-07-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I think it is more than that. It is the slight up hand and trying to please the old guard and making light of their beliefs that is upsetting.

The problem is that pentecosalism is dying out and the young folks coming up are not going to be interested in trying to mesh the old with the new and things like this will keep happening. The Oneness pentecostal world is so small that very few of the young people coming out of seminaries will be able to relate with the subcultures of OP.

Why can't the pastor just come out and say, look, this is what we were and we are still sensitive to the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostals, but over time we have decided that we do not subscribe to those beliefs anymore and it that we do not want to be at odds with the rest of the christian world.

Deltaguitar, I believe you are as OFF-BASE as you can be! If you could have heard our 18 yr old grandson preach a couple of Sundays ago, you would see what I am speaking about. There are still people who have never departed from what they received when they first believed. It was precious when it came and it is even more precious 53 yrs later. I was 18 yrs old when HE found me and as the years have passee as we walked together, our relationship had just become more precious.

Three generations of my husband and my marriage are following us and they are not confused. Landon preached about the woman at Jacob's well. His title was "Your Own Well Experience". An older couple that had been visited our church after not having gone to church for a long time, came and prayed back through (their words) after the sermon. Great renewal service.

If you have never received the Holy Ghost, speaking with tongues, as the SPIRIT gives THE UTTERANCE, as you have claimed, your are not a source I would want to follow. I mean no offence, Deltaguitar. You are cheating yourself and those who follow you. When the blind lead the blind, they both fall in the ditch. Some follow men while others follow GOD! Falla39

Jack Shephard · #**277** 10-07-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

Two words--
JACKSON COMMUTE!!

That would be awesome!

deltaguitar · #**278** 10-07-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

Deltaguitar, I believe you are as OFF-BASE as you can be! If you could have heard our 18 yr old grandson preach a couple of Sundays ago, you would see what I am speaking about. There are still people who have never departed from what they received when they first believed. It was precious when it came and it is even more precious 53 yrs later. I was 18 yrs old when HE found me and as the years have passee as we walked together, our relationship had just become more precious.

Three generations of my husband and my marriage are following us and they are not confused. Landon preached about the woman at Jacob's well. His title was "Your Own Well Experience". An older couple that had been visited our church after not having gone to church for a long time, came and prayed back through (their words) after the sermon. Great renewal service.

If you have never received the Holy Ghost, speaking with tongues, as the SPIRIT gives THE UTTERANCE, as you have claimed, your are not a source I would want to follow. I mean no offence, Deltaguitar. You are cheating yourself and those who follow you. When the blind lead the blind, they both fall in the ditch. Some follow men while others follow GOD!

Falla39

The subculture of Oneness Pentecostalism or "old-time" Pentecostalism is getting very small and i think that is a fact. I worried a few years ago that later in my lifetime no one will even believe me when I tell where I came from. Just go ask folks at Christ church and I bet you would run into a lot of people that have no idea. Of course, I could be wrong, I just have a feeling based on what has come out in this thread.

This is a part of my heritage and one that I do have some "nostalgic" feelings about. I have had to make a decision to cut ties, except on this forum and my parents and family, but the movement was a huge part of my life. I think I do have some understanding of the movement.

My sister who graduated top of her class at CLC has told me that out of her graduating class there are just a handfull that are still any kind of pentecostal. I know of several years in a row that this has happened. I don't have hard data but it looks that way to me. I wasn't trying to be offensive but just stating the conundrum that a church like CC might be. I do not envy this as I have already been through a nasty church split that happened because folks were trying to hold something together that just didn't have a prayer of working.

Very few outside OP will and can understand how a pentecostal feels. That is all I am trying to say. It sounds like folks are upset because they relate to the history and culture of old-time Pentecost and that isn't going to happen anymore at that church.

I appreciate your heritage and it sounds to me like you have a great family church that you guys attend. As long as no one rocks the boat everything will be ok.