We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up! - Page 27

LUKE2447 · #**261** 11-20-2008, 08:24 AM

One thing I thought was interesting is, the last few years you have heard about people saying that stores are trying to take Christmas out of the equation by using Happy Holidays etc.... Well, I was listening to several reports and talk shows here and there and a funny theme came up on many of them. They all noted well isn't technically Christmas pagan in origin and would talk about it's origins which actually was devestating to the whole argument. This from secular and conservative media.

Evang.Benincasa · #**262** 11-20-2008, 08:25 AM

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Apostolics in general... as I realize that some of you may have been anti-fun your whole lives so I cannot direct it to any specific person.

I wasn't raised in church, I was an biker before I came into the church.
What is anti-fun? That would depend on what you call fun. Halloween back in my BC days would of staggard a liberal apostolic, never mind a conservative.
the xmas celebration was identical to the halloween, as was the 4th of July, wait a minute? I think it was like every weekend.

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I think it is silly that things that were not wrong 20 years ago are suddenly wrong today.

I think it because the Brother might be learning and getting more revelation?
So, let's see you all get the Holy Ghost and know everything there is to know?

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I remember UPC churches having Halloween parties and haunted houses when I was growing up... now they have Harvest parties, etc.

Sounds like were wrong and are still wrong? So were do you go from there?
So xmas is wrong and we don't celebrate it nor any other festival.

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If God doesn't change, why does what is wrong change? Or were the preachers back then just ignorant and as get get more and more knowledge, we will discover more and more things that should have been wrong all along?

Maybe they will and keep learning or the others keep covering.

Everybody be fully persuaded in your own mind.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

freeatlast · #**263** 11-20-2008, 08:25 AM

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On ignore

Neck · #**264** 11-20-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price

I see a lot of finger pointing and some really sad arguements here. However, Xmas is pagan, always has been and always will be. Why in the world do we need to mix light and darkness?

If I cannot share my love with someone through the year in holiness, why do I need to practice paganism one day a year in order to do so? That is sheer dumbness. Also, why would I want to bring something that has clear pagan origins, and is pagan in practice, slap a 'Christian' label on it, and then proclaim I am still holy? This is ludacris!

I do not need to go bankrupt. I do not need to practice paganism. And, I do not need to know the ways of the heathen. Some of y'all seriously need to find an altar... seriously!

Corporate worship has it's roots in Paganism.

As it was meant to defile the Children of Israel in public view.

As were the 3 Hebrew Children sent into the fire.

The worship of the Jew's was done through the priest as he passed through the Tabernacle to the Holiest of Holies.

The word testimony comes from the Romans who required the Jew's to hold their Testicles as they were told to denouce Christ of fight the lion's.

I think what you need to do is take a long hard look at your own practices and understand where they originate.

Brad Murphy · #**265** 11-20-2008, 08:26 AM

Is anyone arguing that Christmas does not have pagan origins? I believe everyone accepts that, unless I missed something.

Evang.Benincasa · #**266** 11-20-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

One thing I thought was interesting is, the last few years you have heard about people saying that stores are trying to take Christmas out of the equation by using Happy Holidays etc.... Well, I was listening to several reports and talk shows here and there and a funny theme came up on many of them. They all noted well isn't technically Christmas pagan in origin and would talk about it's origins which actually was devestating to the whole argument. This from secular and conservative media.

Hold on you're making way too much sense now, we wouldn't want anyone to make sense out of this disscussion.

Evang.Benincasa · #**267** 11-20-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

Is anyone arguing that Christmas does not have pagan origins? I believe everyone accepts that, unless I missed something.

No we are arguing how some people can fight tooth and nail to make a pagan holiday Christian.

Brad Murphy · #**268** 11-20-2008, 08:30 AM

Some of us are just sick of Pentecostals taking anything that we find even remotely enjoyable in life and making it a sin... that's why I stopped listening to any of it and I do whatever is right in my own mind...

Digging4Truth · #**269** 11-20-2008, 08:32 AM

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Some of us are just sick of Pentecostals taking anything that we find even remotely enjoyable in life and making it a sin... that's why I stopped listening to any of it and I do whatever is right in my own mind...

Yes... Yes... that is an excellent source of wisdom.

LUKE2447 · #**270** 11-20-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
Some of us are just sick of Pentecostals taking anything that we find even remotely enjoyable in life and making it a sin... that's why I stopped listening to any of it and I do whatever is right in my own mind...

Wow, I bet to you the golden calf party was a bummer....