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Old 09-22-2009, 01:22 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

Glad I'm not alone in understanding that the Tithe is not even remotely commanded of the NT church.

I still pay mine and support my church in every way possible because it is MY CHURCH. I am responsible to pay for the house I worship in. If I want a full time Pastor, then I feel it is my duty to do my best to support him. Do I think for a second someone will go to hell for not tithing? Not on your life! Do I think they may find themselves hurting financially if they refuse to support their chrch? Yes I do. Reap what you sow.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:42 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

Wrong Tithing started before the law of Moses Abrarham payed tithes carried over into the law endorsed by Jesus in Matt. 23-23. I looked at this debete and was not going to reply . Tithing has been carried into every time period from Abarham untill now. Now the church went one step further in the book of Acts they sold their possessions and gave them to the church. Question 100% or 10%? Your choice. My only reply to a most ridiculas debate.

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Old 09-30-2009, 09:16 AM
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Wrong Tithing started before the law of Moses Abrarham payed tithes carried over into the law endorsed by Jesus in Matt. 23-23. I looked at this debete and was not going to reply . Tithing has been carried into every time period from Abarham untill now. Now the church went one step further in the book of Acts they sold their possessions and gave them to the church. Question 100% or 10%? Your choice. My only reply to a most ridiculas debate.
This is another one of those posts that draw from all the erroneous preaching that we have all heard over the years.

It takes stances not based on a poor understanding of the word of God and the things written therein. It is a hodge podge conglomeration of thoughts from here & there that are presented as one cohesive thought.

I can do the same.

Judas went and hanged himself. Go ye and do likewise.

Presenting thoughts one right after the other doesn't make them related.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:22 AM
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Wrong Tithing started before the law of Moses Abrarham payed tithes carried over into the law endorsed by Jesus in Matt. 23-23. I looked at this debete and was not going to reply . Tithing has been carried into every time period from Abarham untill now. Now the church went one step further in the book of Acts they sold their possessions and gave them to the church. Question 100% or 10%? Your choice. My only reply to a most ridiculas debate.
Where people before the law pay tithes?

Matt 23 doesn't even remotely hint tithes is for the church.
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Where people before the law pay tithes?

Matt 23 doesn't even remotely hint tithes is for the church.
It is just more of the same paper mache doctrines.

He is speaking of Abraham giving to Melchisidek before the law.

But... as well all know.

Abraham gave once that we know of.
Abraham gave of the spoils of war and not of his income or agricultural produce.

Also... they act as though someone doing something before the law and then having it implemented in the law means that it should continue after the law.

Animal sacrifice was performed per God's command before the law.

Should we continue to sacrifice animals? Of course not.

But when it fits their agenda they call on it like it is an understood law of the Bible.

Flimsy paper mache doctrines perpetuated mostly by repeating favored scriptural manipulations passed on from ministerial generation to ministerial generation.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:05 AM
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It is just more of the same paper mache doctrines.

He is speaking of Abraham giving to Melchisidek before the law.

But... as well all know.

Abraham gave once that we know of.
Abraham gave of the spoils of war and not of his income or agricultural produce.

Also... they act as though someone doing something before the law and then having it implemented in the law means that it should continue after the law.

Animal sacrifice was performed per God's command before the law.

Should we continue to sacrifice animals? Of course not.

But when it fits their agenda they call on it like it is an understood law of the Bible.

Flimsy paper mache doctrines perpetuated mostly by repeating favored scriptural manipulations passed on from ministerial generation to ministerial generation.

The tithe doctrine has so many holes if it was a bowl I could strain noodles with it.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:11 AM
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The tithe doctrine has so many holes if it was a bowl I could strain noodles with it.
Indeed it does.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:04 AM
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I just realized I have a major problem. I've been making $210.14 but I've only been tithing $21.01. That $0.004 is a small fortune by now, what should I do?... I sure hope I'm not cursed now for overlooking this :/

*NOTE* The above is meant only as satire. I do not tithe, nor do I make $210.14 dollars. Just wanted to point out that this kind of question is applicable if tithes are preached as necessary. Does it have any bearing on the argument? No, of course not.
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:10 AM
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I just realized I have a major problem. I've been making $210.14 but I've only been tithing $21.01. That $0.004 is a small fortune by now, what should I do?...

Make it out to me....






What about a church assembly with + or - 300 active members....and an inner growing hispanic church somewhat separate, but using the building, (+/- 40 members)with their own hispanic pastor, where the hispanic church pays all its tithes to the head church pastor, (not their own hispanic pastor), based on the fact that theyre operating under the roof of the "main assembly". (hispanic offering goes with main offering, toward the building bills). Nobody knows where the tithing actually goes, as far as if any of it is divided up into certain areas or not via the pastors control and decision...or if all or part of it is kept by the Reverend. The treasurers answer to all of it is, all the church tithes is the pastors, its not up to the saints to decide what happens to it, its up to him(head pastor).
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:34 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

The treasurer is a liar an d should re-read how the tithe was distributed in the OT tithing model. Oh wait...Pastors aren't really interested in the OT tithing model other than to use it to manipulate saints into paying a tithe.
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