Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sean

No, I am clueless about how to make it one person

The word and in the Greek is kai which also means EVEN. Just saying.

[Sean]

Howbout this?...


3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ


Does that still look like the same person to you?



And this?....


12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


Does this look like the same person?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The word and in the Greek is kai which also means EVEN. Just saying.

Welcome to the discussion bro. Epley.

Your questions and comments are coveted.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The word and in the Greek is kai which also means EVEN. Just saying.

So every time you read "KAI", you dismiss it as "and/also", to mean "even/same"?

Is the KJV wrong, or do we read it wrong(or both)?

[Sean]

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.


7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, even the Lord Jesus Christ.


Which one is correct?

[Sean]

2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.




2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, EVEN from the Lord Jesus Christ.


Does this change to "even" make them one person?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sean

So every time you read "KAI", you dismiss it as "and/also", to mean "even/same"?

Is the KJV wrong, or do we read it wrong(or both)?

No. I was only making an observation. I couldn’t order a gyro in a Greek restaurant.
But the and has never been a problem to me. However I don’t see two persons with the and.

[Sean]

1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;

2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,




1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, EVEN God the Father, who raised him from the dead; (does this make sense)?

2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, EVEN from our Lord Jesus Christ,(Same person now)?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sean

1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;

2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,




1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, EVEN God the Father, who raised him from the dead; (does this make sense)?

2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, EVEN from our Lord Jesus Christ,(Same person now)?

Yes. God the Father is the Eternal Omnipresent Spirit that raised the Son from the dead. The Son alone reveals the Father.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yes. God the Father is the Eternal Omnipresent Spirit that raised the Son from the dead. The Son alone reveals the Father.

Question is, the son reveals the Father or the Father(same as son) reveals Himself?