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Old 11-14-2007, 08:31 AM
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We celebrate it every year....
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:33 AM
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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Not to be rude and this has nothing to do with the fact that I LOVE Christmas but couldnt all of these been put in 1 thread?
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:05 AM
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Not to be rude and this has nothing to do with the fact that I LOVE Christmas but couldnt all of these been put in 1 thread?
Maybe Admin can give her a hand....
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:08 AM
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Maybe Admin can give her a hand....
That would be greatly appreciated huh
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:12 AM
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I think all these threads can be merged into one-
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:16 AM
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I agree. Christians should not celebrate the Christ Mass. It is a pagan/catholic/heathen unholy custom. Everything about Christ Mass is a lie. Christ was born of a virgin and came to save sinners, but Christ Mass has nothing to do with him. Christ Mass does not fall into the catagory of 'Christian Liberty'. Nowhere in the bible (old or new testament) does God sanction partaking in heathen religious customs, or attempting to 'adapt' them to the truth (mixing truth with lie, aka 'sons of god marrying daughters of men').

Saturnalia is the ancient name for the Christ Mass. December 25th was the birthday of the false Sun-God (Baal, Hercules, Mithra, etc... ) who's priests were cannibals and ate children's flesh. Claiming it is about Christ is like dressing a pig in a tutu and calling it a dancing-queen... no, it's still a pig, and it still acts like one. Yes... this really pleases God, doesn't it?

Exchanging gifts, or merely buying a gift for someone is not the 'love of Christ'. The Love of Christ (agape) is teaching the truth and bearing your cross. Christ Mass is a time when all the members of your family who walk disorderly and reject Christ all come together and expect you to involve yourself with them. The scripture says to speak the truth to these people and then stay away from them. If you love them don't treat them like they're 'okay', because this will deaden their conscience toward their sins.
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With respect to those who do not celebrate Christmas. I use to feel the same way. Christmas trees, giving gifts, Christ-MASS, Wreaths, lights,...PAGAN. All pagan.
No, we aren't commanded to observe His Birth. Nor are we to observe His Resurrection. We are, however to observe His Death.
Yes, much of Christmas is founded in paganism and Catholic traditioins. So are a great number of things we do. Church steeples? Pagan origin.

I use to feel the same way. Until I discovered that God judges the INTENTS of our hearts. What is the INTENT of our celebrating Christmas? Or Easter? Or Halloween, even? To honor a false god? To pay homage to Satan? If so, then we are worshipping a false god. We are following Satan. But if it is our intent to express love, joy...to promote family values... to celebrate the joyous occasion of the Lord's Birth... then God judges the INTENT of our heart. I don't worship this "Walmart special" Christmas tree we put up every year. I don't pray to the Nativity scene... nor do I sell my soul to Satan when I give candy at Halloween. I worship, I pray to our Father, which art in Heaven. I give because I am told by the Word to give.

Justifying? No...just making clear the INTENTS of my heart.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:59 PM
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With respect to those who do not celebrate Christmas. I use to feel the same way. Christmas trees, giving gifts, Christ-MASS, Wreaths, lights,...PAGAN. All pagan.
No, we aren't commanded to observe His Birth. Nor are we to observe His Resurrection. We are, however to observe His Death.
Yes, much of Christmas is founded in paganism and Catholic traditioins. So are a great number of things we do. Church steeples? Pagan origin.

I use to feel the same way. Until I discovered that God judges the INTENTS of our hearts. What is the INTENT of our celebrating Christmas? Or Easter? Or Halloween, even? To honor a false god? To pay homage to Satan? If so, then we are worshipping a false god. We are following Satan. But if it is our intent to express love, joy...to promote family values... to celebrate the joyous occasion of the Lord's Birth... then God judges the INTENT of our heart. I don't worship this "Walmart special" Christmas tree we put up every year. I don't pray to the Nativity scene... nor do I sell my soul to Satan when I give candy at Halloween. I worship, I pray to our Father, which art in Heaven. I give because I am told by the Word to give.

Justifying? No...just making clear the INTENTS of my heart.
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