He Is Enough - Page 2

Digging4Truth · #11 02-23-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Good thought DFT.
However, how can true love (God's love) be known without a contrast between
his love of us, with his hatred of sin, and need to judge it.

In fact in the Bible there are many comparisons between his attributes.

Love vs hatred of sin.
Grace vs What we rightfully owe, but can never pay.
Eternal life vs Eternal Damnation.
Joy vs pain
Healing vs sickness.

We can not ever fully understand what we have until we understand the opposite of it in Gods Kingdom.

We need to have a hell to appreciate Heaven.

JMHO

I don't think that I spoke against these things... I did say that hell (etc) will definitely come into the equation... the issue I have is when these things become our focus or our main selling point.

Felicity · #12 02-23-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

if i center my life around being Christ like and fulfilling His will, and i live sold out, I'm gonna make He that endureth to the end shall be saved

There ya go.

Difference in emphasis. Are you making "heaven" the reason you do what you do in terms of doing the will of God or are you doing it just because it's what God demands and expects and also because you love Him and want to please Him?

There is reward in living for and serving God faithfully. Heaven is part of that package. The promise of eternal life with Christ in heaven is already ours.

Ron · #13 02-23-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I don't think that I spoke against these things... I did say that hell (etc) will definitely come into the equation... the issue I have is when these things become our focus or our main selling point.

True, I guess because I have not grown up in the Church, I was convicted of my sin (fear of Hell) repented, got water baptised, then received the Holy Ghost.

I then tasted, and I saw that the Lord is good!
All of what I do (I hope) is motiovated by love, but in times when I may be wrestling with my flesh/carnality, I am reminded that he holds my destiny in his hands.

Digging4Truth · #14 02-23-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

True, I guess because I have not grown up in the Church, I was convicted of my sin (fear of Hell) repented, got water baptised, then received the Holy Ghost.

I then tasted, and I saw that the Lord is good!
All of what I do (I hope) is motiovated by love, but in times when I may be wrestling with my flesh/carnality, I am reminded that he holds my destiny in his hands.

Yes sir... all of the word of God has its place and ministry in our vaious lives.

LaVonne · #15 02-23-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

What does it say to you about a company who would use as their marketing ploy a constant barrage of how terrible the competition is?

What does it say to you when a persons discussion constantly revolves around how stupid, mean, terrible or evil another person is.

Why do we sell this salvation so often with the ominous spectre of hell?

Hell will surely enter into the equation from time to time.

But...

Should it be the focus?

Should it be the selling point?

Should it be the end all-do all in why you should follow Christ.

To me...

He Is Enough.

Here are the closing notes from a message I am preparing for this weekend.

Being a Christian boils down to…

Growing tired of the results of living it “my way”
Understanding my ways don't bring me the peace I want in my life
Understanding that He is wiser.
Learning of Him
Living what I learn.

Christianity is freedom from…

The inner struggles you face
From the fear/uncertainty that living your way creates
Falling on your face again and again.
Having to ask "Why do I keep doing this to myself?"

It is his mercy that brings us to our knees.

No need to incite fear for the “other” kingdom

This kingdom is good enough to want.

If we are going to reach this city, county etc it will be because…

This kingdom is good enough to want.
People are tired of the emptiness
People are hungry for something that makes a difference.
They want someone who will help them learn how to do it right rather than criticize them for doing it wrong.

Why keep pointing out where their road is headed? They know it isn't headed in good directions.

They want to hear that SOMEONE has the answer.

He is the answer....

This Kingdom is good enough to want.

HE

IS

ENOUGH

Jesus is more than enough...love it!

LadyChocolate · #16 02-23-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

True, I guess because I have not grown up in the Church, I was convicted of my sin (fear of Hell) repented, got water baptised, then received the Holy Ghost.

I then tasted, and I saw that the Lord is good!
All of what I do (I hope) is motiovated by love, but in times when I may be wrestling with my flesh/carnality, I am reminded that he holds my destiny in his hands.

Now as for me, growing up in church, mama put the fear of God in us... She did it in such a beautiful way...I wasn't scared of the all knowing one. She taught me ( along with the church) the way to walk each day. I knew that prayer was a must, mostly because I saw her pray (and fast) often. As I grew older, my mother didn't beat me over the head during my teen years about how I was going to split hell wide open when I wasn't doing right...But in fact, it was the love of God that was instilled in me that kept me from wanting the things of this world.... I never had the desire to walk away from God or His wonderful church body.... I had a genuine love for the things of God...the beauty of holiness, the separation from this world, everything that comes along with being apostolic, I love it and always have.... (boy i am blabbering today) Now, as a parent, my husband and I are have a big responsibility to our children to teach them about God, to put the fear of God in them, and yet, instill a genuine love for God almighty. When you are in love with God....the scripture comes to mind, "many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it" No matter what comes your way, no matter how deep the waters, You will make it thru!!! When you are motivated by "fear" to live for God....you loose soo much in the beauty of it all!' God will carry you through!

okay, enough blabbering.......................................b ut only until my next post!!!

Ron · #17 02-23-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

Now as for me, growing up in church, mama put the fear of God in us... She did it in such a beautiful way...I wasn't scared of the all knowing one. She taught me ( along with the church) the way to walk each day. I knew that prayer was a must, mostly because I saw her pray (and fast) often. As I grew older, my mother didn't beat me over the head during my teen years about how I was going to split hell wide open when I wasn't doing right...But in fact, it was the love of God that was instilled in me that kept me from wanting the things of this world.... I never had the desire to walk away from God or His wonderful church body.... I had a genuine love for the things of God...the beauty of holiness, the separation from this world, everything that comes along with being apostolic, I love it and always have.... (boy i am blabbering today) Now, as a parent, my husband and I are have a big responsibility to our children to teach them about God, to put the fear of God in them, and yet, instill a genuine love for God almighty. When you are in love with God....the scripture comes to mind, "many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it" No matter what comes your way, no matter how deep the waters, You will make it thru!!! When you are motivated by "fear" to live for God....you loose soo much in the beauty of it all!' God will carry you through!

okay, enough blabbering.......................................b ut only until my next post!!!

That isn't blabbering at all.
What a wonderful testimony.