...repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment...
...repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment...
I would consider that to be 'pre-conversion' instruction, at least in their basics.
I'm talking after conversion, after being baptised, after being admitted to the church.
I would consider that to be 'pre-conversion' instruction, at least in their basics. I'm talking after conversion, after being baptised, after being admitted to the church. How do they get discipled? What's the plan?
"In My Father's House" is solid Bible instruction that would be good for anyone, new or seasoned saint.
jmho
The problem I have with this, and all extended "new converts" classes is it's often taught in place of Sunday school with the rest of the church, which separates them from the larger body. To me that alienates them from the body which is why a lot of people become part of a church in part. It lasts a long long time
I believe "new converts" teaching should not last very long so as to integrate them into the body.
Second they SHOULD be learning necessary truths anyways in the regular Sunday school meeting.
I think part of New Converts training should be a long term relationship between the new convert and an elder or some seasoned saint after an initial 2 or 3 convert lessons. Maybe a once a week bible study and fellowship with a seasoned saint or couple
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
The problem I have with this, and all extended "new converts" classes is it's often taught in place of Sunday school with the rest of the church, which separates them from the larger body. To me that alienates them from the body which is why a lot of people become part of a church in part. It lasts a long long time
I believe "new converts" teaching should not last very long so as to integrate them into the body.
Second they SHOULD be learning necessary truths anyways in the regular Sunday school meeting.
I think part of New Converts training should be a long term relationship between the new convert and an elder or some seasoned saint after an initial 2 or 3 convert lessons. Maybe a once a week bible study and fellowship with a seasoned saint or couple
I have seen new convert classes taught on a different night, during a regular service (but separate) in the fellowship hall, but what really seemed to work best was just teach the whole church during a midweek service.
It renewed the basic doctrine with the saints and helped the new convert to not feel stressed out or like they were "under the gun".
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I have seen new convert classes taught on a different night, during a regular service (but separate) in the fellowship hall, but what really seemed to work best was just teach the whole church during a midweek service.
It renewed the basic doctrine with the saints and helped the new convert to not feel stressed out or like they were "under the gun".
That is impossible to do here unfortunately. Since we often have several new converts and their work schedules are nuts, most people only have Sunday
BTW I believe that method might be better but that would have to happen monthly since churches often always have a new convert or more
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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