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Old 01-10-2013, 03:40 AM
Walks_in_islam Walks_in_islam is offline
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Re: Presidential Executive Orders

Executive orders have been carefully numbered and recorded since the 60's.

You're not..........feeling a little unbalanced and off your medication are you?

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:24 AM
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Re: Presidential Executive Orders

The SCOTUS needs to send a shot across the bow and nip this executive order nonsense in the bud. The President cannot use an executive order to alter the 2nd Amendment. And if he tries, the SCOTUS bears the responsibility to put him in check.

My two cents is this was a warning from the WH to Congress to act substantially. He wants assault weapons banned and the gun show loophole closed. If Congress doesn't do both of those things, he will try to issue an executive order.

However, if he does, I believe it will be short-lived and the courts will knock it down. Recent rulings by Fed courts in '08 and '10 have affirmed 2nd Amendment rights and have knocked down laws trying to place limits on it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:56 AM
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President Obama has issued 138 as of September 2012 ... see the chart as to how many the Presidents before him issued....Bush 291 Clinton 364

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Both Bush and Clinton are two term presidents. Obama is starting his second term. He'll most likely land between Bush and Clinton after all is said and done.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:00 AM
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Re: Presidential Executive Orders

Ever noticed that the Patriot Act and Executive Order 13224 violates our Constitutional liberties... as would anything Obama might do with regards to the 2nd Amendment.

Yet Americans will continue voting for one of these two parties...

Why not vote Libertarian? Think about it...




Ever hear of the vast Libertarian conspiracy???

Libertarians want to take over the government... and then leave you alone.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:20 AM
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Ever noticed that the Patriot Act and Executive Order 13224 violates our Constitutional liberties... as would anything Obama might do with regards to the 2nd Amendment.
I voted for W in 2000. I voted against Kerry in 2004. It's terrible that politicians use tragedy to push their agenda. Bush used 9/11 to push the Patriot Act - the most egregious trampling of civil liberties, passed by a Republican no less. The Patriot Act paved the way for Executive Order 13224. Now Obama is using Newtown to push his assault against the 2nd Amendment.



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Ever hear of the vast Libertarian conspiracy???

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Old 01-10-2013, 09:48 AM
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I thought it was very interesting to research how the Republican Party filed law suits in attempt to prevent Libertarians from running against them.

Only Libertarian philosophy approaches governing with liberty and justice for all.

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:01 AM
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Both Bush and Clinton are two term presidents. Obama is starting his second term. He'll most likely land between Bush and Clinton after all is said and done.
You are right, President Obama will probably use more. He would not have used 138 in his first term, IF the republicans priority was not to keep him from being re-elected.... only backfired on them. ... I hope he uses every political weapon against the "Do Nothing" congress and get something done for the American people and our country. ... President Obama puts country FIRST even when the Democrats don't see eye to eye....
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I voted for W in 2000. I voted against Kerry in 2004. It's terrible that politicians use tragedy to push their agenda. Bush used 9/11 to push the Patriot Act - the most egregious trampling of civil liberties, passed by a Republican no less. The Patriot Act paved the way for Executive Order 13224. Now Obama is using Newtown to push his assault against the 2nd Amendment.




President Obama is NOT using anything to push for "GUN CONTROL" ... It was a crazy man with an assault weapon. .. Even 87% of the NRA members agrees that we need regulations on CLIPS and assault weapons... There won't be a problem to get something done to stop the killing of children and innocent people in our country.
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You are right, President Obama will probably use more. He would not have used 138 in his first term, IF the republicans priority was not to keep him from being re-elected.... only backfired on them. ... I hope he uses every political weapon against the "Do Nothing" congress and get something done for the American people and our country. ... President Obama puts country FIRST even when the Democrats don't see eye to eye....
Curtailing constitutional liberties of the American people isn't putting the American people first. He is there to SERVE us... not RULE us.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:13 AM
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President Obama is NOT using anything to push for "GUN CONTROL" ... It was a crazy man with an assault weapon. .. Even 87% of the NRA members agrees that we need regulations on CLIPS and assault weapons... There won't be a problem to get something done to stop the killing of children and innocent people in our country.
"87% of the NRA members agree....". Oh good lord, there is no point in refuting facts when Michael Moore is the source.

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