Stunning Sermon On The Great Tribulation

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by houston

Poor Paul. He thought the gospel was preached to the whole world in his lifetime.

Oh confused paul even preached they were in the last days. Even Peter was messed up preached they were in last days of joels prophecy.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Preaching stuff that happened already.

This is an example of what I am saying. People are stunned to hear the truth. They somehow believe that Christians are already ruling the nations. Wow now THATS a real stunner.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I listened to it

He says that Jesus will not come back until intercessors:

1) preach to the nations that he is coming back to take over their nation
2) pray and beckon his return to rule their nation
3) suffer martyrdom to provide the justification for judgement of that nation

the above is what consitutes preaching the gospel of the kingdom to every nation.

I over simplified it. He was saying that God will not judge the nations unjustly, but that the martyrdom of the saints and the blood of the saints will be His justification for judgement of the nations.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by crakjak

How does this teaching fit with what you have presented on this forum?

I dont think I have taught anything contrary to whats on the video. I agree with it. Did you listen?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I dont think I have taught anything contrary to whats on the video. I agree with it. Did you listen?

Yes, I listened to it, he spoke of the antichrist in part of it. And Israel's specialness to God.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Yes, I listened to it, he spoke of the antichrist in part of it. And Israel's specialness to God.

Ok he was teaching truth. I believe in the coming man of sin. I also believe Israel is beloved for the Fathers sake and that a remnant of Jews will come to Christ in the end time.

[seekerman]

Audience relevence is the key to understanding.

Mat 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.
Mat 24:5 "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.
Mat 24:6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
Mat 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
Mat 24:8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.

Jesus was speaking to His disciples, not to folks 2000+ years in the future.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Audience relevence is the key to understanding.

Mat 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.
Mat 24:5 "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.
Mat 24:6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
Mat 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
Mat 24:8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.

Jesus was speaking to His disciples, not to folks 2000+ years in the future.

Ok then NONE of the writings of the New Testament are for us according to this perversion.

Corinthians was just for the Corinthians.
Thessalonians was just for the Thessalonians.
Colossians was just for the Colossians.
Phillipians was just for the Phillipians.
Timothy was just for Timothy.
Titus was just for Titus.

After all none of these have our names in them. We were not even born.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok then NONE of the writings of the New Testament are for us according to this perversion.

Corinthians was just for the Corinthians.
Thessalonians was just for the Thessalonians.
Colossians was just for the Colossians.
Phillipians was just for the Phillipians.
Timothy was just for Timothy.
Titus was just for Titus.

After all none of these have our names in them. We were not even born.

This made me laugh... good one MTD. So let's just throw out the entire BIble, since it was written mostly to the Jews or to someone else... ha ... sigh...

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Audience relevence is the key to understanding.

Mat 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.
Mat 24:5 "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.
Mat 24:6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
Mat 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
Mat 24:8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.

Jesus was speaking to His disciples, not to folks 2000+ years in the future.

Yuuup!