With respect, that's as clear as mud. I mean every word out of anyone's mouth could have a double meaning.
To be clear, are you expressing the opinion that BHO is a Muslim?
No, it generally takes alot of work to express two contrary opinions at the same time.
Is Obama a Muslim or an athiest using Muslims? I don't know. But many Muslims think he is one of them and this kind of verbage supports that line of thought.
No, it generally takes alot of work to express two contrary opinions at the same time.
Is Obama a Muslim or an athiest using Muslims? I don't know. But many Muslims think he is one of them and this kind of verbage supports that line of thought.
Sorry, but that lacks logic based on what you posted.
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Because you've taken the words of a President condeming the killer of U.S. soldiers and illogically turned them into a Muslim extremists praise for the murder of those soldiers.
That's a total lack of logic, Newman.
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"No faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor," Obama told the crowd on a steamy Texas afternoon. "And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world and the next."
One of the things that made O the perfect canidate was his ability to say exactly what everyone wanted to hear. How is it possible?
Consider the above quote taken off a news website just as I saw it. My first reaction was typical American agreement. But then I considered what other meanings one could attach to carefully crafted words.
1. "No faith justifies these muderous and craven acts;"
To Muslim ears---> Infidels (those with no faith) justifies these murderous and craven acts;
2. "No just and loving God looks upon them with favor."
To Muslim ears----> God doesn't look upon them/infidels with favor.
3. "And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world and the next."
----> Indeed! 70 virgins.
Admittedly, I haven't seen these words in context but found myself stunned by the potential double meaning in the headlines. Coincidence?
Btw- When was the last time you heard the President of the United States bring up life after death in a public speech about an evil person? Hmm....
When one is looking for a conspiracy, they are bound to find one; all that is necessary is to take one's words out of context. It is undoubtedly easier to parse the words of the President, than to simply admit that there are no hidden messages in his speech. He [Pres. Obama] is this, he is that, he is not, etc; all theories with no evidence to substantiate any of the Obama naysayers claims against him. They love their conspiracy theories and many will hold onto them all the way to the grave. I find no fault with his speech or any of the quotes you mentioned.
"...in this world and the next": I think he was referring to the judgment that this man will receive not only by man on this earth, but when he stands before God.
By the way not one President of our nation has never "carefully crafted" the words of any speech they give. Well...there might be an exception to that....G. W. Bush "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002. Were these carefully crafted words?....Who knows? I could make up some conspiracy theories about this quote, but would that be right?
But, seriously My question to you Newman is why consider what other meanings one could attach to as you put it "carefully crafted words"? You seem to know the mind of a Muslim quite well. Shall I conclude that you are posing as a Christian on this forum?
When one is looking for a conspiracy, they are bound to find one; all that is necessary is to take one's words out of context. It is undoubtedly easier to parse the words of the President, than to simply admit that there are no hidden messages in his speech. He [Pres. Obama] is this, he is that, he is not, etc; all theories with no evidence to substantiate any of the Obama naysayers claims against him. They love their conspiracy theories and many will hold onto them all the way to the grave. I find no fault with his speech or any of the quotes you mentioned.
"...in this world and the next": I think he was referring to the judgment that this man will receive not only by man on this earth, but when he stands before God.
By the way not one President of our nation has never "carefully crafted" the words of any speech they give. Well...there might be an exception to that....G. W. Bush "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002. Were these carefully crafted words?....Who knows? I could make up some conspiracy theories about this quote, but would that be right?
But, seriously My question to you Newman is why consider what other meanings one could attach to as you put it "carefully crafted words"? You seem to know the mind of a Muslim quite well. Shall I conclude that you are posing as a Christian on this forum?
Very interesting point. I mean Newman did go to great extents to highlite the view of a Islamic terrorist. He admits that there's no proof that BHO is Muslim. Makes one wonder where the Muslim viewpoint comes in doesnt it....
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Very interesting point. I mean Newman did go to great extents to highlite the view of a Islamic terrorist. He admits that there's no proof that BHO is Muslim. Makes one wonder where the Muslim viewpoint comes in doesnt it....
First, Newman is a woman and second, she is one of us (Apostolic).
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Well...I slept on it...and I still think this is ludicrous!
I agree that Obama is not very Christian, no matter what he claims for votes or otherwise; however, there is no evidence that he is a practicing Muslim. So unless he's a sleeper planning a Jihad (and what form would that take, anyway?), what is the point of even discussing it?
I disagree with his policies, and I think his philosophies are ungodly and some of them even wicked. That doesn't make him a Muslim terrorist, though--it just makes him like a whole bunch of other people in this country.
As for the speech itself...his speech writer (Jon Favreau) would have to also understand what's going on in order to "carefully craft" such a double intendre-filled play on words. So now we're accusing him of being a Muslim extremist as well? Someone support that with actual evidence, please.
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