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06-19-2009, 05:40 PM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
I thought the KJV was the only version.... 
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06-19-2009, 05:45 PM
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crakjak
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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I thought the KJV was the only version.... |
Nope, it is not even the best. 
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06-19-2009, 07:57 PM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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Nope, it is not even the best. |
Buttttt....... I've always heard it said that if the KJV was good enough for the Apostles, it's good enough for us... hehehe...
BTW... the thread is very educational... or was still I stepped in...
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06-19-2009, 08:07 PM
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
Maybe he quoted the hebrew/aramaic and then whoever wrote the gospels used the LXX
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06-19-2009, 09:40 PM
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crakjak
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Maybe he quoted the hebrew/aramaic and then whoever wrote the gospels used the LXX
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I believe the disconnect can be traced to Jerome and the Latin Vulgate. Why would the translators use the Vulgate in Isaiah and the LXX when Jesus quoted Isaiah in Luke?
Have you studied any of the details of the findings of the Dead Scrolls, I think you might find it very interesting.
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06-19-2009, 10:16 PM
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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I believe the disconnect can be traced to Jerome and the Latin Vulgate. Why would the translators use the Vulgate in Isaiah and the LXX when Jesus quoted Isaiah in Luke?
Have you studied any of the details of the findings of the Dead Scrolls, I think you might find it very interesting.
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They were reaching a mostly greek speaking, then latin speaking audience. No I have not studied a lot
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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06-19-2009, 10:51 PM
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
I'll take King James for $500 please.
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06-19-2009, 11:19 PM
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crakjak
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
They were reaching a mostly greek speaking, then latin speaking audience. No I have not studied a lot
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That is correct.
The history of Jerome's Latin Vulgate and his insistence on using his own elusive Hebrew manuscript, even against the criticism of the other church fathers is quite amazing. He condemned the LXX as sloppy workmanship so that he could translated to suit himself. The discoveries in cave #4 provides evidence of his intentional deceptions.
I am still digging into this and having a blast, it is so interesting.
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06-19-2009, 11:23 PM
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crakjak
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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I'll take King James for $500 please.
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I love the King James, but I believe in the wisdom of two or three witnesses.
History adds much to understanding, but we should always seek the witness of the Holy Spirit.
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06-19-2009, 11:32 PM
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Re: What version of the OT did Jesus quote from?
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Originally Posted by crakjak
That is correct.
The history of Jerome's Latin Vulgate and his insistence on using his own elusive Hebrew manuscript, even against the criticism of the other church fathers is quite amazing. He condemned the LXX has sloppy workmanship so that he could translated to suit himself. The discoveries in cave #4 provides evidence of his intentional deceptions.
I am still digging into this and having a blast, it is so interesting.
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Really? How do you get internet in that cave? 
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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