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05-31-2009, 03:18 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
heading to church...love you folks...
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05-31-2009, 03:34 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
I guess I don't see alot of this. Preachers are men also, to expect them to be perfect isn't fair. However, it should not be unreasonable to expect them to Christians. (i.e. Christ-like)
I believe that the majority of pastors are good people, who love the Lord, and love people. What I am against, and preach against, are those preachers whohave tried to makethemselves somebody. I call them "Celebrity Preachers". Those preachers who won't preach for a church exceprt for a certain amount, that want to ride a lime to camp meeting/conference, who want to stay in a suite, etc. Those ministers who are here to be served, rather than to serve. Yes, I admit, I can't stand that, and I beleive the Word backs me on this point.
Again though, I believe the majority of preachers are not in ministry for the wrong reasons, but because they love people, and want to help their fellow man make it to heaven. And while I am all for examining the doctrine that men teach, I think anyone should choose their words very carefully and respectfully when it comes to discussing any minister on a personal level.
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05-31-2009, 03:44 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
It is all about perspective and balance.
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05-31-2009, 06:48 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
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Originally Posted by simplyme
Excellent post!
Yes some pastors have an ego problem, like many other humans, and believe that they ARE "God" for those sheep under his guidance., that is when it becomes problematic, even injurious for impressionable and vulnerable 'lambs', but for the most part the ones I've known are doing well, it can be a most stressful position (at times) I'm sure and it takes a strong man to handle whatever comes his way, but with GOD, all things are possible!
I believe that those TRULY called of GOD will turn out to be great blessings for the world., some that are merely
'appointed' as in 'succession' (which sounds more secular) may have some difficulties in adapting.
Either way, it is NOT "christian" to ever put down the men that are 'trying' their best to serve GOD first., they are
certainly not perfect, although there will always be those whom expect that., and I say ' shame on them'.
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I think the two comments here (yours and Sis A's) show the misunderstanding of the Word and the focus on the negative. Both of your comments have nothing to do with the article posted, which is why I titled it as I did.
Everyone always focuses on the exception, which the letter actually addressed...telling to leave if necessary. But I think the part of the letter "who are you to judge another's servant" is really the key.
In fact, I would go to the other side of the equation and say, if you have a holy Pastor you should get connected, stay connected, honor and treat them according to the anointing on their life.
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05-31-2009, 06:51 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
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I believe for the few that bash preacher's. There are many more that lift them up in prayer daily, and honor them for what they do for the kingdom of God.
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I believe that you are right on this. It's like America as a whole. All we ever hear from are the nuts (on either side)...I think for the most part that are a multitude of Americans that love country, but they are a silent majority.
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05-31-2009, 07:24 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
sorry that I misunderstood...old folks are like that! ha...
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05-31-2009, 07:39 PM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
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It seems that very few people on this forum has anything good to say about those who are in ministry. The majority of the opinion comes across as "who do they think they are," "Their controlling," "Dictators!"
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Oh great, another congregation-bashing thread. The majority of the opinion comes across as "who do they think they are," "They always complain," Ingrates!"
What? Is that an unfair generalization? Annoying isn't it?
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05-31-2009, 07:45 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
Amen, Sis. Alvear!
P.S. You didn't misunderstand anything!
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05-31-2009, 08:43 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
love you folks
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05-31-2009, 09:15 PM
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Re: Let's Bash the Preacher Some More
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Originally Posted by gloryseeker
It seems that very few people on this forum has anything good to say about those who are in ministry. The majority of the opinion comes across as "who do they think they are," "Their controlling," "Dictators!"
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The nightly news, newspapers, and radio tend to have very few stories of the "good" news.....
While in retail, I rarely remembered all the "good" customers.
But I sure remembered the bad custromers. And remembered the horrible pastors (only a couple but their memories stick with me like a bad potato salad).
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