Ferd, there is definitely a very specific, consistent, and traditional flow of the political leanings of a forum like this. I think that going upstream against that flow can be perceived as supporting BO. I can assure you that it is very possible to be fed up with the GOP and the games that you perceive them playing with the religious right and not be a BO or Democrat supporter.
I think that to compound it, there is something inside some of us that does enjoy going against the flow to begin with
Stew, I have seen you consistantly approach this in that way. I get that and recognize it.
D4T has always been consistantly a third party guy and if you read much of what he has said there is plenty to support that view.
Generally that kind of thing is easy to see and clearly easy to understand....
Im just pointing out what I see.
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according to Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC's Morning Joe program this morning. The rumor (and that's all it is right now) is that Colin Powell will officially endorse Barack Obama for President. I'd read rumblings online for a while, but didn't really expect him to jump in.
I'm not sure what kind of affect his endorsement would have. As a general rule, I don't usually believe endorsements have much sway at all, but there aren't many people in this country anymore who are as widely respected as Colin Powell. Given Colin Powell's reputation and the amount of respect he has around the country, this could be a factor for those voters who don't trust Obama in foreign policy matters.
Maybe the Obama'ites have seen the tightening in the latest polls and are getting nervous??
We shall see what happens...
Honestly,
I hope he DOES NOT endorse Sen. Obama.
Even if Colin Powell was going to vote for Sen. Obama, it would be better if Mr. Powell just kept his feelings to himself.
I wouldn't want someone of Powell's stature to be blemished, tarnished by getting involved in this political football bat of a historical race.
At this point, Sen. Obama has little to gain from Colin Powell's endorsement, but Mr. Powell would stand a lot to lose if Sen. Obama turns out to be not the guy we see now.
But then, maybe Mr. Powell could be part of a (hopefully future) Pres. Obama Administration. That would show EXTREMELY good judgment on Sen. Obama's part.
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Even if Colin Powell was going to vote for Sen. Obama, it would be better if Mr. Powell just kept his feelings to himself.
I wouldn't want someone of Powell's stature to be blemished, tarnished by getting involved in this political football bat of a historical race.
At this point, Sen. Obama has little to gain from Colin Powell's endorsement, but Mr. Powell would stand a lot to lose if Sen. Obama turns out to be not the guy we see now.
But then, maybe Mr. Powell could be part of a (hopefully future) Pres. Obama Administration. That would show EXTREMELY good judgment on Sen. Obama's part.
I agree that he probably should not publicly endorse Obama. There is a part of me that wonders how Powell really feels about the war in Iraq. I seem to remember some rumblings that he may have been opposed to how Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush were doing things and that may have contributed to someone as popular as him leaving or being replaced in the cabinet. I wonder if opposition to the war and things he saw on the inside would be enough to push him over. Personally, I doubt he would do it but it is interesting.
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At this point, Sen. Obama has little to gain from Colin Powell's endorsement, but Mr. Powell would stand a lot to lose if Sen. Obama turns out to be not the guy we see now.
A very astute point.
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I agree that he probably should not publicly endorse Obama. There is a part of me that wonders how Powell really feels about the war in Iraq. I seem to remember some rumblings that he may have been opposed to how Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush were doing things and that may have contributed to someone as popular as him leaving or being replaced in the cabinet. I wonder if opposition to the war and things he saw on the inside would be enough to push him over. Personally, I doubt he would do it but it is interesting.
Tstew, no reason to wonder how Colin Powell feels about the Iraq war. He'll tell you very clearly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b32CpmZVYc
This is one major reason why a Powell endorsment would be bad news for McCain. This brings the failures of Iraq back to the forefront and John McCain can't win the issue of Iraq with voters.
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Tstew, no reason to wonder how Colin Powell feels about the Iraq war. He'll tell you very clearly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b32CpmZVYc
This is one major reason why a Powell endorsment would be bad news for McCain. This brings the failures of Iraq back to the forefront and John McCain can't win the issue of Iraq with voters.
Man, I had never seen that. I really do wish that it was Powell running for President. He seems to have a perspective that is rooted in reality.
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I am like you, I don't think endorsements really make a big difference. I just saw Martin Sheen this morning and some other celebrities on Morning Joe and it just humors me that these Hollywood snobs think they are so important that a significant nmumber of people would actually vote based on what they say and do.
I don't know, I think a lot of people (not me ) actually will vote because someone they like, or look up to, endorses a certain candidate.
Man, I had never seen that. I really do wish that it was Powell running for President. He seems to have a perspective that is rooted in reality.
I would have worked from daylight until dark for Colin Powell. I've said this before, but I regret the fact that I won't have the chance to cast a vote for the man.
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Yawn.
Colin Powell's political relevance has fallen more than the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
So... moving along.
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Besides, waiting till 3 weeks before the elections to endorse Obama when he's now the consensus front-runner is not exactly a politically risky or courageous move for Powell.
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Yawn.
Colin Powell's political relevance has fallen more than the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
So... moving along.
Yeah, but it is amazing that the level of respect for him remains to this day higher than it is for many of the ones very much in the political spotlight today.
Involvement in politics and political relevance has very little to do with respect for a man and the desire to see him once again in a position of great geo-political influence.
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