Pastor's problems

[jaxfam6]

[QUOTE=gloryseeker;427873]I just wonder how many Pastors have failed because the people in their congregations didn't hold them up in prayer, because they were too focused on what they disagreed with?

Not only does the Pastor hold a great responsibility for the people they have been given, but the saints have a great responsibility for the gift that is in their life.

I would be careful how you talk about those of whom have greater authority in the Kingdom than yourself:


2 Pet 2:9-11
9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,
10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord. (NKJ)[/QUO]

Interesting. One day maybe I will get into a dicussion about that also.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

I just wonder how many Pastors have failed because the people in their congregations didn't hold them up in prayer, because they were too focused on what they disagreed with?

Not only does the Pastor hold a great responsibility for the people they have been given, but the saints have a great responsibility for the gift that is in their life.

I would be careful how you talk about those of whom have greater authority in the Kingdom than yourself:


2 Pet 2:9-11
9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,
10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord. (NKJ)

Just curious as to why you think the office of pastor has greater authority in the kingdom than other callings within the body?

Also why does a pastor get to blame the saints for not praying for him when he falls? That seems a little odd to me.

Are you equating pastors with dignitaries?

[Book 'em Dano]

Non Pastors can and do do this as well. The "super religious" who point out everyone else's faults are usually the ones struggling with some sort of sin. They focus on all the 'ungodly' christians around them. If they tend to lie they will talk about how they hate liars.

If they talk about how they can't stand gossipers a lot you can be sure they gossip.

[Book 'em Dano]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Just curious as to why you think the office of pastor has greater authority in the kingdom than other callings within the body?

Also why does a pastor get to blame the saints for not praying for him when he falls? That seems a little odd to me.

Are you equating pastors with dignitaries?

Well nobody said a pastor gets to blame anyone. However Pastors usually are praying for the rest of the body in their local church. They should be praying for the souls, but at the same time the other members of the church should also be praying for him. Paul said pray for one another. That MUST include praying for the pastor, don't you think?

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Book 'em Dano

Well nobody said a pastor gets to blame anyone. However Pastors usually are praying for the rest of the body in their local church. They should be praying for the souls, but at the same time the other members of the church should also be praying for him. Paul said pray for one another. That MUST include praying for the pastor, don't you think?

I think you read the post that Baron referred to wrong.

I'm also curious to see some scritural ref that the pastor has more authority.

[Book 'em Dano]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I think you read the post that Baron referred to wrong.

I'm also curious to see some scritural ref that the pastor has more authority.

dumdumdoodoodoo....reading reading.....NOPE. I read it right the first time. Thanks anyways cuts less

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I think you read the post that Baron referred to wrong.

I'm also curious to see some scritural ref that the pastor has more authority.

The pastor is definitely held to a higher standard than saints.

I have noticed that people usually harp on things that they are struggling with themselves - it's not just a pastor thing.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

The pastor is definitely held to a higher standard than saints.

I have noticed that people usually harp on things that they are struggling with themselves - it's not just a pastor thing.

totally agree MrsMcD.

Standard and authority not the same

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Book 'em Dano

dumdumdoodoodoo....reading reading.....NOPE. I read it right the first time. Thanks anyways cuts less

Sorry Dano I think I read to much into your post.

BTW your comedic endeavor to re-arrange my user name was utterly hilarious. Did you come up with that on your own or did you plagerize a real comedian.........be honest

[Book 'em Dano]

I think I heard some guy do it once in Hawaii. Me and Steve were after this murderer and it turned out to be Rich Little.....