Hey y'all if I may post seriously here on this thread. I was just thinking about Acts 2:38. You know the scripture? Then Peter said unto them. Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. It does not say repent or be baptized for the remission of sins. But only the blood of Jesus washes away sins.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Hey y'all if I may post seriously here on this thread. I was just thinking about Acts 2:38. You know the scripture? Then Peter said unto them. Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. It does not say repent or be baptized for the remission of sins. But only the blood of Jesus washes away sins.
Cneasttx, what you dont understand is that Peter didnt mean what he said! you see, Peter was trying to say that sins were remmitted at the sacrifce and that Dan would come along later and explain Universal Salvation to us later.
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LOL! Daniel as I have said, we all walk in the garden of your turbulence.
Lord knows we are incapable of understanding what a type and shadow is without you here to place it in proper US context for us!
Lets all just hold hands and be happy that we owe nothing as the work was done before we were born.
Thank you Dan for helping our understanding!
I'm sorry that other Apostolics can't offer plausible interpretations for shadows and types ... and doctrinal matters ... if they are not David Bernard or you Ferd.
I thought that's what we do here .... opine of spiritual matters among other things.
If you feel your birth is the deciding factor and your obedience to God's Word is the deciding factor to the provision of our New Birth ... than we part ways ... Senor Chevalier.
Peter understood that we are baptized with a view towards our sins being remitted at Calvary .... and that Ferd, is BIBLE APOSTOLIC TRUTH.
Baptism is found in the Old Testament sacrifices and rituals. The Old Testament term for baptism is the word “MIKVAH.” A mikvah is a pool or a gathering of water. Immersion of the whole body was performed to correct a condition of ritual impurity and to restore the impure to a state of ritual purity. Ritual impurity could be viewed as SIN. The ritually impure person is prohibited from performing certain functions and participating in certain rites, so their immersion (baptism) would then render them again ritually clean.
The Children of Israel knew that these mikvahs were not the one true mikvah which was to come. They knew that that cleansing would come from their Messiah. Jeremiah 17:13 is a prophetic reference to the coming Messiah, Jesus. This passage calls Him the “hope of Israel.”
The word “HOPE” here in the Hebrew is the word “MIKVAH.” This makes this verse literally say Jesus was became the “BAPTISM” of Israel! The DAY of the Messiah was to be a time of cleansing from sins and disobedience. Zechariah 13:1 and Ezekiel 36:25-27 are prophetic passages that amen this Truth! Matthew 1:21 and John 7:38, 19:34 tell us that Jesus came to be this type cleansing.
What we see from all this is that baptism is for the remission of sins. When we are baptized in Christ, we are baptized into His death. Also the Bible tells us that baptism is both the “womb” (See John 3:3, 5) and the “tomb” (See Romans 6:4; Colossians 2:12). It is not contradictory to describe baptism as both a Womb and a Tomb. Both are places of non-breathing and end points of the cycle of life. When a person passes through either of these, he attains a totally new status; and when a person enters the waters of baptism, he places himself in a place of non-living. When he or she emerges from baptism’s waters, they are raised-up in a new status, position, or existence, because the “Old Man” dies there, and the “New Man” becomes alive (See 1 Peter 2:9; Romans 6:6). The old man must die (repent) and be buried (baptism) before the new creature can arise and live anew (Holy Ghost).
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Cneasttx, what you dont understand is that Peter didnt mean what he said! you see, Peter was trying to say that sins were remmitted at the sacrifce and that Dan would come along later and explain Universal Salvation to us later.
I thought that's what we do here .... opine of spiritual matters among other things.
Others do. you and I dont. we offer hyperbole and heritical potshots at each other.
I am a heritic washer of the popes ruby slippers and you are a proponent of Carlton Petersons pink shirt wearing funky collar having Universal Salvation.
let the others Opine, we create the turbulence!
As always your humble heritic
Ferd the papist.
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You know. When I was baptized my Pastor said, "Upon your confession of faith and in obedience to the word of God, I now baptize you my brother in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins."
As a child I remember asking my dad if baptism is for the remission of sins then why didn't I have to get rebaptized every time I sin. I have heard stories of folks in my former UPC church, way back in the day that would be rebaptized if they had been “backslide” or after they prayed back through so that their sins could be washed away.
Also, I wonder why my pastor called me brother before I was baptized. I would think that I wasn't a brother until my sins had been forgiven.
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