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Old 01-29-2008, 09:35 AM
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Well, if they did that then the UPC would just blackball him.
Do you know anyone personally who's been blackballed by the UPC??
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:42 AM
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Do you know anyone personally who's been blackballed by the UPC??
Are you asking that to imply that the UPC doesn't really "blackball" anybody? Or what....?


I don't really personally know anybody that has been such....but I do know of at least one that would pretty much fit the bill.


In general though I don't find that the rules are carried out to the letter in most cases....not around here anyways... Such as the contacting of other UPC churches in the city if a UPC preacher is going to preach for a non-UPC, or whatever those rules are supposed to be....
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Are you asking that to imply that the UPC doesn't really "blackball" anybody? Or what....?


I don't really personally know anybody that has been such....but I do know of at least one that would pretty much fit the bill.


In general though I don't find that the rules are carried out to the letter in most cases....not around here anyways... Such as the contacting of other UPC churches in the city if a UPC preacher is going to preach for a non-UPC, or whatever those rules are supposed to be....
They don't take extreme "blackballing" tactics for the WPO.....
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:09 AM
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What's the WPO? lol
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I predict the bi-organization will not exist.
Apprehended stated something in another thread that lends to your prediction.

He pointed out that the Tulsa 6 have created s "super voting block" within the UPCI.

I suspect the leadership of the UPCI will have to deal with that before the next GC.

This appears to me to have far reaching consequences.
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You know if your prediction comes true...

I am going to call you "Prophetess Renda"...
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:27 AM
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Not sure if this qualifies as blackballing, but 15+ years ago my husband preached for a good friend in another state. At the time this church was UPC. My husband had turned in his lic and was "independent".
Shortly after this meeting the pastor of the church was reprimanded for having a non UPC speaker.

(Ten years later we lived in the the city of this district official and actually attended his church for a few years.)
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another question just popped into mind....

Who's authority supercedes who???

If a man wants to start a church in a certain location and the UPC tells him he can't (being that he is now bi-organizational) does he go to the WPF to get permission???
IF one has dual membership they would need to satisfy both - it's that simple. Not likely to happen long term - I think.

Oh, and how about the Dual Dues??
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Apprehended stated something in another thread that lends to your prediction.

He pointed out that the Tulsa 6 have created s "super voting block" within the UPCI.

I suspect the leadership of the UPCI will have to deal with that before the next GC.

This appears to me to have far reaching consequences.


Or not. Some will drop their UPC license while many in remainder are so independently minded I doubt a block vote can be established, except around very select issues.
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Apprehended stated something in another thread that lends to your prediction.

He pointed out that the Tulsa 6 have created s "super voting block" within the UPCI.

I suspect the leadership of the UPCI will have to deal with that before the next GC.

This appears to me to have far reaching consequences.
If that is true, then that would just be wrong. If they didn't agree with UPC enough to stay with them, then why should they have a voice?

I think this is where so many are caught in the middle because they have friends on both sides. Even though I actually think the split is a good thing for both parties, this is the area I see it hurting more than helping.
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