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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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Women cut their hair in many ancient civilizations.
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Shaving their heads was a common rite of passage at various times in their lives. Often this did not involve a razor type clean shave - but a close cropping. It was felt that a person's hair was a "witness" to some part of their life. When they passed that stage they did away with the "witness" and got a new start.
In most ancient Middle Eastern cultures woman of rank in the social order would keep their hair cut short for convenience and then wear wigs in public.
Male warriors in many societies would let their hair grow for as long as they were on a campaign. When the war and killing was over they shaved or cropped their heads to signify a "new start."
The Nazarite vows are similar to this in many regards.
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01-19-2010, 06:10 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
From drawings and paintings, it appears that Egyptian women cut theirs - usually with bangs straight across in front. And even though God gave the Israelites a lot of specific commands about what 'not to do like the pagans', women cutting their hair wasn't one of those commands. Which I find odd, if he didn't want them to do it.
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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Your mockery of the scriptures is not amusing. Tell me your complaint. (?) Other than you have an axe to grind with any preacher that steps on your TV or anything YOU dont want to give up or comply with.
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John asked you to consider the entire context of the chapter, and you call that "mockery" of Scripture?
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01-19-2010, 06:18 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
Wow, I'm not going to dig back through everything, but in response to the following as quoted above by Dave:
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Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8
Your mockery of the scriptures is not amusing. Tell me your complaint. (?) Other than you have an axe to grind with any preacher that steps on your TV or anything YOU dont want to give up or comply with.
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Just because people ask what is right doesn't mean they want to do wrong.
When people sincerely search scripture to ask questions or find answers, aren't they doing what God would want? That isn't mockery. That's wisdom.
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01-19-2010, 08:56 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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01-19-2010, 10:36 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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I dont think theres anything wrong with "open toed" shoes. Its not biblical. But the Bible does give authority to the minstry to use their own judgement. That is Biblical. Dont like it....go to another church. If it can be backed up with a Biblical "precept or principal" thats different.
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01-20-2010, 12:09 AM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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I dont think theres anything wrong with "open toed" shoes. Its not biblical. But the Bible does give authority to the minstry to use their own judgement. That is Biblical. Dont like it....go to another church. If it can be backed up with a Biblical "precept or principal" thats different.
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“A foot isn’t sin. A foot fetish is most likely sinful.” -coadie-
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Well, there you have it folks. This is how compromise starts out. " I don't think there is anything wrong with this or that." D, how can you not see the evil of open toe shoes! Sandals and the like were fashioned by lust-ridden designers obsessed with exposing parts of the foot that should not go uncovered. They incite and aggravate the fetish in some men that want to caress those cute little "piggies" wrapped up in the bondage of sandal leather straps. Where does it stop? What would that lead to? You think those men working in the nail salons that do the full treatment pedicures are just part of the family business? Gimmeabreak! They want to play with toes! At least coadie understands that much. And that is why we both know that churches should have a list of men "exempt" from footwashing, because we still aren't sure if just any sight of feet causes this downward path to evil.
Of course, I nearly thought you were a compromiser brother, that is, until I read the rest of your post. When you said that the preacher in the pulpit can exercise his God-given authority to make "executive decisions" when necessary. Amen! We need men of principle in this hour who will stand up and declare truth as they see it, even if that means adding a little to the Good Book! I see it like a good cook--nothing wrong with throwing in a pinch of salt here or a smidget of spice there for good measure. Men who will tell us what to wear, and which kinds of shoes will send us sliding head first into a devil's cauldron. I don't even want to study the Bible for myself. None of should really, cuz we might misinterpret something. Leave it to the professionals I say!
If peope don't like it, they can find another church! Amen brother! We don't need any more compromisers messing up a good thing! I'm tired of folks thinking they can come to God as they are, and then, when we give them ample time to change, they don't give up their heathen habits. Shame on these wannabe Christians who can't hack it with the real thing. Just remember D, we're Christians from head to toe. And if you see women letting down their hair in public, or wearing open toe shoes to church, mark them. Their message is loud and clear, " come and take my little piggies to the market..."
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01-20-2010, 12:58 AM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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The ONLY "bifurcated" garment in the old testament was worn by the priest!
My question to you is this
IS IT WRONG FOR A MAN TO WEAR A SKIRT or DRESS ????????
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
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Well, there you have it folks. This is how compromise starts out. "I don't think there is anything wrong with this or that." D, how can you not see the evil of open toe shoes! Sandals and the like were fashioned by lust-ridden designers obsessed with exposing parts of the foot that should not go uncovered. They incite and aggravate the fetish in some men that want to caress those cute little "piggies" wrapped up in the bondage of sandal leather straps. Where does it stop? What would that lead to? You think those men working in the nail salons that do the full treatment pedicures are just part of the family business? Gimmeabreak! They want to play with toes! At least coadie understands that much. And that is why we both know that churches should have a list of men "exempt" from footwashing, because we still aren't sure if just any sight of feet causes this downward path to evil.
Of course, I nearly thought you were a compromiser brother, that is, until I read the rest of your post. When you said that the preacher in the pulpit can exercise his God-given authority to make "executive decisions" when necessary. Amen! We need men of principle in this hour who will stand up and declare truth as they see it, even if that means adding a little to the Good Book! I see it like a good cook--nothing wrong with throwing in a pinch of salt here or a smidget of spice there for good measure. Men who will tell us what to wear, and which kinds of shoes will send us sliding head first into a devil's cauldron. I don't even want to study the Bible for myself. None of should really, cuz we might misinterpret something. Leave it to the professionals I say!
If peope don't like it, they can find another church! Amen brother! We don't need any more compromisers messing up a good thing! I'm tired of folks thinking they can come to God as they are, and then, when we give them ample time to change, they don't give up their heathen habits. Shame on these wannabe Christians who can't hack it with the real thing. Just remember D, we're Christians from head to toe. And if you see women letting down their hair in public, or wearing open toe shoes to church, mark them. Their message is loud and clear, "come and take my little piggies to the market..."
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,
Of course, RW posted this clip, which somewhat supports Deut's claim that the MOG has every right to "add to the book" as he sees fit. This is the more articulate "academic" version of Deut's theology: http://www.therockchurch.org:/defaul...es-traditions/
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