Rockets hitting Jerusalem

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

shaz - I really do not like to see curse words, here. I have to put up with enough of them other places. I do not want them here.
You also seem really worked up about something that you believe is not a problem.
If it is not a problem, why bother?
Lastly, just to clarify: do you really believe that it might be God's will to wipe out the Jews?

yes, ok, i apologize for the indelicacies, but yikes already. I am worked up because of the general attitude here, and its unfortunate prevalence, and relevance, to our society as a whole--that society i see crumbling around me.

As for God's will where the Jews are concerned, that is stated quite plainly in Scripture; a remnant will remain (but then, i don't view physical death like y'all seem to--as the day when 'eternity' majikally starts). I don't think Hamas could possibly wipe out the Jews if they tried; and they have. What leads you guys to think that Israel needs our help? you are deceived. Understand the difference in "Israel" and "Jews." the difference is vast.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

The targeting of innocent Israeli women and children by Hamas is nothing new...

ok, but why, oh why, is that your focus? The offering up of children to Molech is not new, either; in the US, we sanction it, and call it 'abortion.' Let's talk about that, shall we--something that actually applies to us.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

These people have been brainwashed and indoctrinated from childhood

How frustrated were the Kamikaze pilots? Hmmm?

Blame the US for those Japanese Pilots suicide runs?

When a man murders his wife and kids then blows his brains out (Murder suicide), do we blame the wife?

yes, Prax--but unfortunately, we are shielded, and so think that we have been immune to indoctrination, when in fact we have it the worst, prolly. You kind of mix metaphors or whatever here, so i'll say that in your first case, are you aware that the Japanese tried, more than once, to surrender, before we dropped atomic bombs on them? Of course, you don't get taught this in school...also, to imagine that Pearl Harbor was a surprise has now become pretty hard to defend, as has the historic posture that we actually tried to stay out of the war. All lies, for public consumption.

In your second case, i am missing the relevance, sorry; but it seems to me that Israel is portrayed as the longsuffering wife here, when they strike me--and increasingly more Jews, btw--as the abusive husband. What happens in Israel now is no less than apartheid.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I side with any nation being attacked to defend itself. Israel should not be an exception...but WHY is it?

Hmmm?

Hamas says they are doing it because they want their borders open. Then why not bomb Egypt?

Hmmmm?

Israel closed those borders because of suicide bombers. Anyone that says Israel should open those borders are tacitly admitting they want suicide bombers to go through and blow up buses packed with civilians

That's the problem. The anti Israel agenda is just to clear and apparent...

The Anti-Jew agenda never condemns Hamas for it's rocket barrage on Israel yet demands Israel NOT defend itself

It refuses to blame Hamas for starting this war. It refuses to blame Hamas for using citizens as human shields

It refuses to blame Hamas for intentionally putting Rocket launchers in population zones

The Anti-Jew agenda is so clear and apparent

I can't take their condemnation of Israel serious until they be fair and blame Hamas too

And it's NOT really about those innocent civilians for this agenda. If it was where is the outrage over Syria? Where is the outrage over Christians in Iraq?

Where is the outrage over Ukraine? No where because there are no Jews involved

The fact is, every one of those nations that voted "YES" against Israel would do the same to defend it's nation

i don't have the answers there--but i can see the Ashkenazi hiding behind the Jews. i don't even see any Rothschilds on the Forbes' richest list anymore, hmm. That's rich. Trust that every bit of news you get is being spoon-fed to you; every reaction calculated.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That's the problem...many different theories and suspicions.

You know...conspiracies are called that for a reason. Most "conspirators" try to hide what they are doing. But supposedly everyone knows about these guys?

Read up on the Rothchilds and their "wealth"

For me, it is simply enough to recognize that satan runs the world--ergo, he must have a mechanism. They have a flag, which i have posted. They have 3 places on the planet that belong to no country, and answer to no one. To not be a 'conspiracy theorist,' imo, is to be fatally naive. satan runs the world, but there are no conspiracies? now, this does not mean that there are not good people in Gov, trying to set things right, also, however.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Luke

Could you please recite the plege of allegiance for us?

and by all means, as you are doing so, realize what you are saying. You cannot recite this pledge and call yourself a Christian; and if you think you can, then you have been deceived. You cannot serve two masters.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

Can't argue with stupid....

hey, there you go. If it makes you feel better to call me stupid, and Hamas--somehow--your enemy--then understand where you are going with that. I fully realize that i will have to give account of what i am saying here today. Peace to you.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, but why, oh why, is that your focus? The offering up of children to Molech is not new, either; in the US, we sanction it, and call it 'abortion.' Let's talk about that, shall we--something that actually applies to us.

Seriously? Why is Hamas' targeting of women and children my focus? "Prolly" because, unlike you, I find it repulsive that Hamas would not only target women and children, but hide behind them and use them as human shields.

How is a terror organization targeting women and children comparable to abortion? It's just not. Regardless, it's a nonissue as there are several discussions on here where I've spoken out against abortion and the people who have enabled, encouraged, promoted and made it easy and free to obtain them.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

hey, there you go. If it makes you feel better to call me stupid, and Hamas--somehow--your enemy--then understand where you are going with that. I fully realize that i will have to give account of what i am saying here today. Peace to you.

It's abundantly clear you not only view Hamas as a victim, but you support and approve of its terror tactics.

It's sadly ironic how you complain and rant on about the evil of the Rothschilds and other tin foil hat conspiracy theories...yet you support a terror organization.

I'm done.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by shazeep

yes, Prax--but unfortunately, we are shielded, and so think that we have been immune to indoctrination, when in fact we have it the worst, prolly. You kind of mix metaphors or whatever here, so i'll say that in your first case, are you aware that the Japanese tried, more than once, to surrender, before we dropped atomic bombs on them? Of course, you don't get taught this in school...also, to imagine that Pearl Harbor was a surprise has now become pretty hard to defend, as has the historic posture that we actually tried to stay out of the war. All lies, for public consumption.

In your second case, i am missing the relevance, sorry; but it seems to me that Israel is portrayed as the longsuffering wife here, when they strike me--and increasingly more Jews, btw--as the abusive husband. What happens in Israel now is no less than apartheid.

You are buying to the same type sources that are friends of Hamas today!!

From publication of his The New Left and the Origins of the Cold War in 1973 to Weapons for Victory: The Hiroshima Decision Fifty Years Later which came out in the midst of the brawl over the National Air And Space Museum's Enola Gay exhibit, Maddox, has minced, sliced, and diced the conspiracy theories that have evolved into conventional wisdom in some quarters. In "The Greatest Hoax," he states:

A staple of Hiroshima Revisionism has been the contention that the government of Japan was prepared to surrender during the summer of 1945, with the sole proviso that its sacred emperor be retained. President Harry S. Truman and those around him knew this through intercepted Japanese diplomatic messages, the story goes, but refused to extend such an assurance because they wanted the war to continue until atomic bombs became available. The real purpose of using the bombs was not to defeat an already-defeated Japan, but to give the United States a club to use against the Soviet Union. Thus Truman purposely slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Japanese, not to mention untold thousands of other Asians and Allied servicemen who would perish as the war needlessly ground on, primarily to gain diplomatic advantage.

One might think that compelling substantiation would be necessary to support such a monstrous charge, but the revisionists have been unable to provide a single example from Japanese sources. What they have done instead amounts to a variation on the old shell game. They state in their own prose that the Japanese were trying to surrender without citing any evidence and, to show that Truman was aware of their efforts, cite his diary entry of July 18 [1945] referring to a "telegram from Jap Emperor asking for peace."

There it is! The smoking gun! But it is nothing of the sort. The message Truman cited did not refer to anything even remotely resembling surrender. It referred instead to the Japanese foreign office's attempt (under the suspicious eyes of the military) to persuade the Soviet Union to broker a negotiated peace that would have permitted the Japanese to retain their prewar empire and their imperial system (not just the emperor) intact. No American president could have accepted such a settlement, as it would have meant abandoning the United States' most basic war aims.