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08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by ILG
I already made my case showing that God gave Adam Eve and that was it. I also made other scriptural references. The truth is that if I put all that work into it and spent all that time, I doubt it if it will change your mind anyway.
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Did God originally give them clothes? LOL
My point is that we see the first man and first woman in Adam and Eve. But there isn’t a specific condemnation of polygamy there.
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08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Dora
I have to say that I think polygamy was a custom meant to populate the earth in the OT. Also, women are definitely in a vulnerable position in this deal. Using women as a means to elevate your social standing as if a woman is a Cadillac Escalade is just disgusting. The idea that a man having multiple wives is an acceptable lifestyle in modern times, just blows my mind. We're right back to viewing women as property, de-valuing their position in the family and in the body of Christ. I think the idea of polygamy as a viable family situation went out with the arrival of Christ. He treated women with respect and dignity. Polygamy is the antithesis of dignifying women. It put them in the place of a slave, animal or piece of property. I can't believe the CRUD I'm reading here! Where did you guys come from? Where are the men standing against this JUNK???
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I think viewing women to elevate social standing is terrible too sis. But that’s not inherent in polygamy….that happens in monogamy as well. Men are nearly always looking for that “trophy wife” or pressuring some poor girl to try to meet their expectations to elevate their social standing.
In our society polygamy is unnecessary so men only get one thing out of it…and yes…it objectifies women. But biblical polygamy is different. It was a brutal world. I’m sure that you’d agree that polygamy is morally superior to the idea of thousands of women being sold into slavery or entering prostitution. Biblical polygamy protected women from a very brutal world.
So please don’t think I’m talking about polygamy as would be practiced today. I’m looking at it in its biblical context and expressing it’s over all value to their society. I firmly believe that if we lived in a decimated world after a global catastrophe we’d see a resurgence of the practice out of the necessity to protect women, the family heritage, and the family wealth.
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08-06-2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
Dora.....many men like the idea of having few hot wives.
Does this bother you?
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08-06-2008, 01:01 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Dora.....many men like the idea of having few hot wives.
Does this bother you?
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Dude...you mean we men can be carnal?
Ok...it's true. We can be very carnal at times.
I'll be honest, I think it would be interesting in theory...but reality is a different story. I picked a good wife...she provides every thing I could ever want.
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08-06-2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Dude...you mean we men can be carnal?
Ok...it's true. We can be very carnal at times.
I'll be honest, I think it would be interesting in theory...but reality is a different story. I picked a good wife...she provides every thing I could ever want.
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good for you aquila, god blessed me with the same, couldnt be happier, lol,dt
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08-06-2008, 01:08 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Dude...you mean we men can be carnal?
Ok...it's true. We can be very carnal at times.
I'll be honest, I think it would be interesting in theory...but reality is a different story. I picked a good wife...she provides every thing I could ever want.
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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
good for you aquila, god blessed me with the same, couldnt be happier, lol,dt 
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I have one smok'n hot wife too!
I love her and do not want another.
My comment is to Dora.....why is she so bent on Bible PolyGamy?
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08-06-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by COOPER
I have one smok'n hot wife too!
I love would not want another.
My comment is to Dora.....why is she so bent on Bible PolyGamy? 
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cool, good for you coop, and i for the record have never met a woman who wanted to be part of a harem, least not that i knew of, lol, dt
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08-06-2008, 12:59 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
good luck on that one coop, you deserve whatever they come down on you with, lol
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08-06-2008, 01:07 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Tyk
Probably one of the better post so far. I definitely am a one woman man. I want to love her and her alone. I have no desire to be with any other woman, and fight or flee any temptation mental, physical, ect. I can not phathom having more than one wife, and wouldn't feel right in doing so.
Scriptural approach though, I can't condemn or tell anyone that is in Polygamy that they are "wrong", in "sin" , or "lost" other than a minister.
There's just not a basis for it. I happen to be a male, if I was female (due to society and conditioning of the present times) this would hurt me to hear in a way. It would make me feel less important or like a second rate being to a male. I understand that, and I'm sorry, I can't find reason/scripture to disprove it or I would. I would rather monogamy be the only and right choice according to God, but it's not about my ways.
Lastly , to remind you - I care nothing for monogamy and find it disturbing in a sense, but i'm sure that's due to my "conditioning and present time mentality". I would discourage it if someone came seeking advice or guidance, but I could not tell them it was going to cause them to miss heaven.
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Interesting and complex position bro. I’m not sure what to think of it.
But I’d like to revisit Dora’s question….(it really was a doosey of a question)
If a couple came to you and privately confessed or confided in you that they were mutually interested in opening their marriage to polyamory or polygamy…you’d disagree but not think they would miss heaven?
*(Sorry if I got your question wrong Dora.)
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08-06-2008, 01:08 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Dora
So how do you oppose the idea of modern polygamy when polygamy is obvious "ok" in the Old Testament. How do you argue that it is wrong to have multiply wives in modern society?
From my perspective polygamy puts women in a vulnerable position and is likely to result in abuse for the wife and for the children. Must create such confusion for the children. And there is always the issue of the husband preferring one wife over the other.
Just some rambling thoughts...feel free to contribute your views on the subject.
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My conviction stems from the fact that I can't afford more than one wife, and PLUS, I dont want two or more women yelling at me for leaving my clothes in the floor.
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