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Old 07-11-2013, 11:51 AM
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I read a comment - Boy, children sure are dangerous these days, beating a man's head into the ground. LOL!
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:52 AM
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This appears to be a kangaroo court:

[Slang of U.S. origin.] An unfair, biased, or hasty judicial proceeding that ends in a harsh punishment; an unauthorized trial conducted by individuals who have taken the law into their own hands, such as those put on by vigilantes or prison inmates; a proceeding and its leaders who are considered sham, corrupt, and without regard for the law.

The concept of kangaroo court dates to the early nineteenth century. Scholars trace its origin to the historical practice of itinerant judges on the U.S. frontier. These roving judges were paid on the basis of how many trials they conducted, and in some instances their salary depended on the fines from the defendants they convicted. The term kangaroo court comes from the image of these judges hopping from place to place, guided less by concern for justice than by the desire to wrap up as many trials as the day allowed.

The term is still in common usage by defendants, writers, and scholars critical of a court or a trial. The U.S. Supreme Court has also used it. In in re gault, 387 U.S. 1, 87 S. Ct. 1428, 18 L. Ed. 2d 527 (1967), a case that established that children in juvenile court have the right to due process, the Court reasoned, "Under our Constitution, the condition of being a boy does not justify a kangaroo court." Associate Justice william o. douglas once wrote, "[W]here police take matters in their own hands, seize victims, beat and pound them until they confess, there cannot be the slightest doubt that the police have deprived the victim of a right under the Constitution. It is the right of the accused to be tried by a legally constituted court, not by a kangaroo court" (Williams v. United States, 341 U.S. 97, 71 S. Ct. 576, 95 L. Ed. 774 [1951]).
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Not just that, but it was evident by the argument and all the case law presented that the State had already prepared it, but waited until the last possible second to include it so as to (once again) limit the time the Defense is able to argue against it.
Yes, exactly like the text messages. I want an acquittal, but if we don't get that, I would hope for a retrial. Some of this stuff needs to be exposed.
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I see George's father is present. Can't see behind the Prosecution whether his mother is there as well.

I didn't understand how GZ parents were not allowed when TM's parents were also called to testify and allowed to stay.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:03 PM
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YES!!!!!!!!!!
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She is declining the child abuse?

No Murder 3 - YES!!!!
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:05 PM
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I see George's father is present. Can't see behind the Prosecution whether his mother is there as well.

I didn't understand how GZ parents were not allowed when TM's parents were also called to testify and allowed to stay.
It was a prosecution strategy.
The prosecutor wanted the effect/emotion of the jury seeing the mother and father of TM without seeing GZ mother and father. It is a psychological strategy. The jury see's the mourning family and only the accused.
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I see George's father is present. Can't see behind the Prosecution whether his mother is there as well.

I didn't understand how GZ parents were not allowed when TM's parents were also called to testify and allowed to stay.
There was a pre-trial hearing in which the Judge stated the FL statute where the parents of the victim can be present, even if listed as witnesses; but the parents of the defendant do not have that right, if listed as witnesses. The Judge is allowed to overrule it, but in this case she refused to do so.
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She is declining the child abuse?

YES!!!!
Judge denied the 3rd Degree Felony Murder charge w/Child Abuse.
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There was a pre-trial hearing in which the Judge stated the FL statute where the parents of the victim can be present, even if listed as witnesses; but the parents of the defendant do not have that right, if listed as witnesses. The Judge is allowed to overrule it, but in this case she refused to do so.
That was pretty sorry of her. What difference did it make except to only put TM's parents, continually, before the jury.
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