Mega upc church in Turmoil ????? - Page 13

Margies3 · #**121** 02-22-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I knew there would be people here with their eyes open!

boy, do I feel stuPid. Sorry 'bout the blunder.

LaVonne · #**122** 02-22-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

May I say something rather personal here...I am the mother of 7 sons. For almost 30 years we worked in south Brazil and when we left that area we left our oldest son in charge because he had the same vision and shared the same burden...another one of our sons is scheduled to leave from this area we live in to a jungle area and work as a missionary. Both these sons proved themselves in the ministry. The other night my husband called another son that lives in this area and rumors have it that he is in line for this work. I heard my husband tell him son, if you think you are going to take this work when we hand it down it will BE the people that will love you, respect you and want you to be their pastor!
I do feel if a son has worked beside his father and is called and the people know and feel it then he is usually (not always) the one for the job...

I refuse to let a son or son in law destroy what I have worked all my life to build!

This is good thinking!

SoCaliUPC · #**123** 02-22-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan

Do the by-laws give him that right? If not, then he does not have that right.

No, which has made a BUNCH of saints....PILLAR SAINTS IN THE CHURCH, very upset

ManOfWord · #**124** 02-22-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

No, which has made a BUNCH of saints....PILLAR SAINTS IN THE CHURCH, very upset

The solution is quite simple. All someone has to do is make one phone call. This type of behavior is illegal and could very well be in violation of state law. One phone call could stop the whole process and cause everyone to return to "Go" and back to the LEGAL by-laws. I have seen this happen more than once and when ONE person has total control, disaster is not far behind!

Don't get me wrong, the "captain", should be at the helm, but he can't operate a big ship by himself and neither should he. A good pastor knows that one of his greatest assets is godly people around him who will not be afraid to tell him the truth.

Too many church members have drunk the elixir that all disagreement is satanic and rebellious! It is poisonous.

Kutless · #**125** 02-22-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

The solution is quite simple. All someone has to do is make one phone call. This type of behavior is illegal and could very well be in violation of state law. One phone call could stop the whole process and cause everyone to return to "Go" and back to the LEGAL by-laws. I have seen this happen more than once and when ONE person has total control, disaster is not far behind!

Don't get me wrong, the "captain", should be at the helm, but he can't operate a big ship by himself and neither should he. A good pastor knows that one of his greatest assets is godly people around him who will not be afraid to tell him the truth.

Too many church members have drunk the elixir that all disagreement is satanic and rebellious! It is poisonous.

Pastor MOW this is the comment of the decade in my book. Absolute wisdom here. WOW MOW!!

SoCaliUPC · #**126** 02-22-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

The solution is quite simple. All someone has to do is make one phone call. This type of behavior is illegal and could very well be in violation of state law. One phone call could stop the whole process and cause everyone to return to "Go" and back to the LEGAL by-laws. I have seen this happen more than once and when ONE person has total control, disaster is not far behind!

Don't get me wrong, the "captain", should be at the helm, but he can't operate a big ship by himself and neither should he. A good pastor knows that one of his greatest assets is godly people around him who will not be afraid to tell him the truth.

Too many church members have drunk the elixir that all disagreement is satanic and rebellious! It is poisonous.

It very well will be very interesting to see how all of this unfolds.....

StillStanding · #**127** 02-22-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

It very well will be very interesting to see how all of this unfolds.....

Which city paper can I read about this?

LaGirl · #**128** 02-22-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

It very well will be very interesting to see how all of this unfolds.....

yes it will.

Truthseeker · #**129** 02-25-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

If you're a pastor and you feel that your son is "THE MAN" to take over the church, the church body will know he's "THE MAN" too!

If the church body feels differently, then obviously he is NOT the man!!!!

Pro 18:16 A man's gift maketh room for him, and bringeth him before great men.

So the church decides the man for the job?

Carpenter · #**130** 03-12-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

So the church decides the man for the job?

In this particular case, the church most certainly did not decide. This situation is so out of character and unbelievable.

The city isn't what it used to be thought the demographics have changed quite a bit.

Regardless, there are some good people in a church that has tremendous legacy and it, unfortunately walked out the door the minute the Big guy stepped up to resign.