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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Correct. 
INcorrect.
Matthew 9:10-13
And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. |
Sister try your emphasis on REPENTANCE.
Again, Jesus didn't hang out with homosexuals who were actively engaging in their perversions. He would of been giving the Pharisees and Sadducees and Herodians way too much ammo to accuse Him. Jesus tells the religious Jews that He is there to convert them. Don't you see that?
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Wasn't it repentant adulterers Jesus was around, and liar who gave up lying, and thieves who asked for forgiveness. Jesus was accused of fraternizing with the malcontents of society, yet that wasn't what He was involved in. When Mary washed his feet with her tears and dried them with her long uncut hair, it was done through a repentant heart. Jesus was pure and blameless concerning His culture, and couldn't have been hanging out with homosexuals. If He had hung out with active homosexuals who were totally involved with their perversions He would of had more problems then He could handle from the religious of His time.
Does Jesus care about sinners? Of course He does, repentant ones.
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When Jesus sat with the Tax Collectors, the most hated and corrupt of their time, they had made no move toward Christ or any kind of Godliness at all. When the father looked out and saw his son returning home, he ran to his son, embraced him and kissed before he knew why his son was returning.
Jesus cares about everyone repentant or not. He even cares about you.
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Wow. I'm shocked at the whitewashing and spinning in this post.
Jesus ate with publicans and sinners. It did not specify what types of sinners they were. Sorry. And they weren't called "repentant" sinners at that point.
Jesus only cares about repentant sinners? 
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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Sister, while we WERE sinners. Again, you chose a scripture that speaks of Jesus siting with publicans to preach and convert them. He wasn't hanging out with active homosexuals engaging in their perversions. Political correctness is sinking this country and popping a cap into the back of the head of Pentecost.
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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When Jesus sat with the Tax Collectors, the most hated and corrupt of their time, they had made no move toward Christ or any kind of Godliness at all. When the father looked out and saw his son returning home, he ran to his son, embraced him and kissed before he knew why his son was returning.
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Jesus cares if you repentant, if you don't repent, He doesn't even KNOW you.
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Sister try your emphasis on REPENTANCE.
Again, Jesus didn't hang out with homosexuals who were actively engaging in their perversions. He would of been giving the Pharisees and Sadducees and Herodians way too much ammo to accuse Him. Jesus tells the religious Jews that He is there to convert them. Don't you see that?
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She said it very well...."While we were yet sinners."
Wow. Such grace. Thank you Jesus for your efficacious grace that doesn't depend on our performance!!!
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Jesus cares if you repentant, if you don't repent, He doesn't even KNOW you.
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And there are many that do wonders in His name that He doesn't know. Of course He cares if we repent (turn), but you're wrong about what you said.
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Sister try your emphasis on REPENTANCE.
Again, Jesus didn't hang out with homosexuals who were actively engaging in their perversions. He would of been giving the Pharisees and Sadducees and Herodians way too much ammo to accuse Him. Jesus tells the religious Jews that He is there to convert them. Don't you see that?
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Jesus didn't shy away from giving the Pharisees or Sadducees "ammo", and that is a VERY weak argument anyway. 
I don't find any record in scripture where Jesus ever shunned the company of a sinner. Do you have one to share? I'd be happy to read it.
Of COURSE He wanted to call sinners to repentance; Christians should be concerned with the same goal. But saying that He only cares about "repentant sinners?" That's a twist you don't get out of scripture. Christ died for us well in advance of our repentance. He cared for me from the moment I was conceived, (and before) and well in advance of my realization that He existed.
You'll never have the chance to lead a homosexual to Christ if you never talk to one.
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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Sister, while we WERE sinners. Again, you chose a scripture that speaks of Jesus siting with publicans to preach and convert them. He wasn't hanging out with active homosexuals engaging in their perversions. Political correctness is sinking this country and popping a cap into the back of the head of Pentecost.
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Who said He was "engaging in their perversions?????" If He was in the vicinity of an adulteress, was He "engaging in her perversion?" What about around a liar or a thief?
You're not on your game tonight, EB.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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She said it very well...."While we were yet sinners."
Wow. Such grace. Thank you Jesus for your efficacious grace that doesn't depend on our performance!!!
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WERE sinners, I know that is hard for you to deal with, but the name of the game is change through repentance.
Sorry, Jesus wasn't giving the right hand of fellowship or the kiss of greeting to any male prostitutes.
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Re: Welcome Azzan Thread
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And there are many that do wonders in His name that He doesn't know. Of course He cares if we repent (turn), but you're wrong about what you said.
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No, I'm right. Very right.
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