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Old 09-19-2013, 07:44 PM
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The only problem I can see with the UPCI, is I left
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Re: The problem with the UPCI

The UPC will never get back to a positive growth as long as they allow that magic hair crud to grow. They need to cut it off now
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The UPC will never get back to a positive growth as long as they allow that magic hair crud to grow. They need to cut it off now
Well I can tell you that trash is NOT preached in my little corner of the UPCI
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Well I can tell you that trash is NOT preached in my little corner of the UPCI
It's time to speak up. Nobody in leadership will do it because there seems to be this attitude that pastors and celebrities cannot be corrected, unless of course they are fellowshipping with Trinitarians.
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Because most 1 Steppers like myself are considerably more tolerant than a true 3 stepper...

While many 1 steppers believe Baptism In Jesus' Name and Speaking in Tongues are important doctrines (even though not salvific) they are tolerant of those believers who disagree with them (both three steppers and Baptists) and expect to see them in heaven.
Why wouldn't you be tolerant when you don't view it as salvific? It's no sweat off your back.

And, BTW, Ephesians says that He sealed us with that Holy Spirit of "promise" which is the "earnest/security" of our "inheritance/heirship". Without it, you are not an heir. So how is that not salvific?

How do you reconcile Romans 8, when it says if you "have not" the Spirit of Christ, you are none/not of His? That sounds pretty serious toward our salvation.
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Why wouldn't you be tolerant when you don't view it as salvific? It's no sweat off your back.
I was just answering the question. Not claiming higher moral ground... cause I'm tolerant like that.
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I was just answering the question. Not claiming higher moral ground... cause I'm tolerant like that.
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PO, perhaps we need to review the "High Church" and "Liturgical Worship" threads... for a double barrel of good ole fashion tolerance!?
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PO, perhaps we need to review the "High Church" and "Liturgical Worship" threads... for a double barrel of good ole fashion tolerance!?
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, wore it, sold it in a garage sale.
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Why wouldn't you be tolerant when you don't view it as salvific? It's no sweat off your back. And, BTW, Ephesians says that He sealed us with that Holy Spirit of "promise" which is the "earnest/security" of our "inheritance/heirship". Without it, you are not an heir. So how is that not salvific? How do you reconcile Romans 8, when it says if you "have not" the Spirit of Christ, you are none/not of His? That sounds pretty serious toward our salvation.
initial evidence... You equate being spirit filled with tongues. No tongues, no spirit per your doctrine. One steppers believe that people are saved by/at faith. God gives the spirit to those that believe.

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