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09-25-2007, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
How? Did the Apostle Paul need Internet, Television, or Radio? He preached to every creature under heaven during his time, and with out technology.
How many Jehovah Witness commercials have you seen? How many advertisements for Roman Catholic Churches and Eastern Greek Orthodox do you see?
I think this is going to be a big mistake.
In Jesus name
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And how many million people were on the planet then? and now?
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09-25-2007, 01:05 AM
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The reality is that most of those in support of the TV issue will never advertise or broadcast on TV anyway.
Secondly, most of those supporters use the flawed argument that in an attempt to win the world for Jesus, they should be allowed to use every medium available to accomplish the great commission.
I could buy this argument if those who use the argument were already using every avenue to reach the lost that is currently at their disposal and is in accordance with the organization they applied to belong to, knowing that this was the stand of the organization. Don't tell me you will use the newest greatest, when you won't even use what you have..
The majority, however, think that this new "miracle" medium is going to fill their churches with untold masses of the lost without all of the effort required otherwise. "Working smarter not harder." The statistics do not lie, according to George Barna less than 1% (I will verify this statistic) of people who attend a church were reached in any way by TV.
True revival and realizing a harvest of souls is going to take what it has always took. Prayer, fasting, powerful worship, powerful transforming preaching, and consistent outreach.
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09-25-2007, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by IBCrazier2
And how many million people were on the planet then? and now?
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Imagine taking a trip from Jerusalem to Spain, by rowboat and then back to Jerusalem via Europe through Asia Minor by foot? You need to ask yourself this question, "how hard that must have been?" Now how many people were in the Roman Empire I could only guess, the job was hard and it took these men only 40 years to preach and convert souls to their message. The Pentecostal Jesus Name movement has made a huge impact on the world and they did that without Internet, and Television. Can anyone name me the list of all those non-UPCI Brothers who are on television who are world famous or even nationally known? Listen there are One God Jesus name groups out there who have no problem with televisions why don't we have any of their folks hitting the big time because of television technology?
When I was in the world I never remember any One God Jesus name television commercials or televangelists who preached Acts 2:38 or One God?
You meaning to tell me that all Pentecostal who are Jesus name are only UPCI? Where are all these One-God televangelists from television past?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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09-25-2007, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
How? Did the Apostle Paul need Internet, Television, or Radio? He preached to every creature under heaven during his time, and with out technology.
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you are kidding right???
Paul never left the Western Middle East and the main parts of Rome...
He hit Rome and the surrounding area, most of Greece, and the areas around Israel & Modern Turkey...
Paul NEVER went to Africa and he never went to Asia...
The only way Paul preached to "every creature under heaven" is if only middle eastern (and possbily white) people are creatures under heaven and no one else counts...
and even then, there is no factual reason to assume that Paul preached to everyone in all of those cities...
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09-25-2007, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I'm saying move not the old landmarks.
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By getting rid of these rules, the landmarks are being moved back...
The landmarks were that there is no law and we are free in Christ... Anything different is not the doctrine of the Bible...
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09-25-2007, 01:16 AM
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And how many million people were on the planet then? and now?
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I love it when people ask this question! If you crunch the numbers, 12 men turned the world upside down.
By current estimates there are more than 4,000,000 (very conservative numbers) oneness folks on the earth today. If we really got a burden and quit waiting on someone else to reach our world it could be done in less than 10.5 years. (each on win just one each year and teach them to do the same. 8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1b 24m,2b 48m,4b 96m,8b 192m
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09-25-2007, 01:17 AM
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09-25-2007, 01:18 AM
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OK, like I said, you mean "Portugese" (which is the official language of Brazil), right???
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Yes.
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Yes, that is what I was asking about... When you ask about a work that speaks "Brazilian", though, I had to wonder since there is no language on the planet earth called "Brazilian"...
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I said a Brazilian work! I never said a work that speaks Brazilian! Listen; try to read what I post with a little more care as to not misrepresent what I am trying to convey to you. What I would like to suggest to you is start paying attention to what is posted please.
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I understood the situation before, I just wasn't sure what you were talking about since you were asking about a church reaching to a certain demographic based on nationality (and that's not cool to have a church based on nationality), but what you were really looking for is a church that speaks Portugese (a church that is needed based on language barriers)
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Yeah...right.
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09-25-2007, 01:19 AM
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you are kidding right???
Paul never left the Western Middle East and the main parts of Rome...
He hit Rome and the surrounding area, most of Greece, and the areas around Israel & Modern Turkey...
Paul NEVER went to Africa and he never went to Asia...
The only way Paul preached to "every creature under heaven" is if only middle eastern (and possbily white) people are creatures under heaven and no one else counts...
and even then, there is no factual reason to assume that Paul preached to everyone in all of those cities...
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Try to read a Bible.
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09-25-2007, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bishoph
I love it when people ask this question! If you crunch the numbers, 12 men turned the world upside down.
By current estimates there are more than 4,000,000 (very conservative numbers) oneness folks on the earth today. If we really got a burden and quit waiting on someone else to reach our world it could be done in less than 10.5 years. (each on win just one each year and teach them to do the same. 8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1b 24m,2b 48m,4b 96m,8b 192m
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AMEN TO THAT!!!!
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