When is a lie justified?

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

It's all about Dan saving the world. I give up.

This was am unnessary slam.....since when is asking folk to be transparent a wrong thing??

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Matt:18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Dan, I think you skipped step #2...



This is too much openess for me. It's personal between the two parties and those in charge. Some dirty laundry doesn't need to be aired in public unless there is no other recourse.

Love covers a multitude of sins. He that covers a transgression seeks love.

Here is where you are wrong....
I went to the person.....no progress...I went to another admin to help me....THEN I started the thread..
SO I did NOT skip #2

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by philjones

But I have yours AND his!

Yes, you are one of the chosen!

[retsambeW]

Man...the things that hapen when I leave for 24 hours.














I LIKE retirement. I really do.

St. Matt, I pray for you on a daily basis.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by NLYP

No Matt...I dealt with someone that has known my wife for some 20 or more years that I was addressing as a friend. My Father in law was her Pastor when she was young. And Tiffany was quite excited that they had "reunited" after so long.

"I have done this for some time now"????? What does that mean?
I am NOT for sowing discord...I am for EVERYBODY being honest!

Plus....her defense was that it is admin policy that all pm's regarding admin are supposed to be reported to admin....yet I am told that this is not true.

UGH! I give up.

I do thank you for the correcting that you did.
But remember...."perception" of what Admin thinks is simply that....perception.
TO give your word and then within 30 seconds go back on your word is not perception its WRONG!
I would have dealt fine with it had she said "Dan...I cannot give you my word because I am bound to report it to admin"
I would have respected that.....But she did not....she gave her word and then ....lied on it.

Not life or death, not to keep someone from getting hurt...just to run her mouth.

I am sorry this even happened.
To the admin involved...lets just move on from here.
TO you that are reading this please stop asking...Im not saying anything...(you know why?...because believe it or not I DONT want to hurt admin OR "sow discord")

IF you were addressing her as a friend then why were you asking about actions taken by admin in the admin area? Again, you are not willing to take responsibility for your wrong doing.

Lets look at these facts one more time.

1. You received an infraction from this admin.
2. During your plea in talking with this admin about the infraction, you started with the "can you keep a secret" junk
3. Then you ask about a situation that had been addressed within the admin area.
4. then because this admin has ethics, yes I said ethics, to realize that what you were doing was sowing discord within the admin area, she stated very plainly that "This is an admin that doesn't share what goes on in the admin area." and referred you to me. She had a responsibility to post that within the admin area. But instead of coming to me via our wonderful PM system, you came out in public and basically slapped her in the face and called her a liar. OH, you were subtle, because no one but admin knew the full story. But it was insulting none the less.


And now all you can do is come out here and play the victim role. I am not buying it, Dan.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

Man...the things that hapen when I leave for 24 hours.


I LIKE retirement. I really do.

St. Matt, I pray for you on a daily basis.

Will you add me to your daily prayer list?

[Sweet Pea]

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

Man...the things that hapen when I leave for 24 hours.














I LIKE retirement. I really do.

St. Matt, I pray for you on a daily basis.

Thanks Bro. At this point I truly need it.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

Will you add me to your daily prayer list?

Yes.



Pm me your real name. I have come to the conclusion God doesn't hear prayers for cyber personalities.











Actually, send only your first name, I don't need to know your real identity. God all ready knows.

[Sacerdotal]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

IF you were addressing her as a friend then why were you asking about actions taken by admin in the admin area? Again, you are not willing to take responsibility for your wrong doing.

Lets look at these facts one more time.

1. You received an infraction from this admin.
2. During your plea in talking with this admin about the infraction, you started with the "can you keep a secret" junk
3. Then you ask about a situation that had been addressed within the admin area.
4. then because this admin has ethics, yes I said ethics, to realize that what you were doing was sowing discord within the admin area, she stated very plainly that "This is an admin that doesn't share what goes on in the admin area." and referred you to me. She had a responsibility to post that within the admin area. But instead of coming to me via our wonderful PM system, you came out in public and basically slapped her in the face and called her a liar. OH, you were subtle, because no one but admin knew the full story. But it was insulting none the less.


And now all you can do is come out here and play the victim role. I am not buying it, Dan.

That pretty much sums it all up for me. I think we get the picture now. oloroid