Why lie about Hitler?

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So, if Israel had to keep extensive genealogies in order to know who married who, who gave birth to who, then it isn't a DNA situation correct?

Their genealogies had to do with the priesthood and the royal line, not to prove every citizens' Jewishness or pact with God as Israel.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Whats your thoughts on REv 3:9?

"He is a Jew, not outwardly, but of the circumcision of the heart". I think Jesus was speaking of false Christians, not ethnic Jews who never pretended to convert to Messianic faith.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Their genealogies had to do with the priesthood and the royal line, not to prove every citizens' Jewishness or pact with God as Israel.

That's not entirely true, because Jesus was not of a priestly line, nor were the king's servants, who needed to produce lineage. As far as Levites were concerned they didn't only have to prove just their parentage, but their wives have to prove their qualifications to marry a priest. Also, they couldn't just be sons of Aaron, but had to be sons of Zadok. Circumcision wasn't something which only Israelites and Judeans practiced but also practiced by the Egyptians, while the majority of the Hellenistic culture viewed circumcision as mutilation. So, circumcision wouldn't be proof of one's connection with a tribe. Which all during the time of Jesus Christ knew their lineage and that lineage was written down, and cataloged. While modern man may view ancient men as backward hillbillies, they weren't. They were advance in the way they kept their historical records. Ezra 59-60, not only catalogs the priests, but temple servants and those who waited on the king. Failure to produce a genealogy prevented them from citizenship.

The whole understanding of a book of life, were scrolls kept by chroniclers of the ancient world. Citizens, or members of tribes or governments were entered at birth. Other scrolls documented deaths, criminal executions, notable events which certain citizens did outstanding, and also events in which certain people foiled the plot of assassinations of government officials as in the case of Mordecai in the book of Esther. Even the Bible itself is a chronicle of events, genealogies, and who begat who. Yet, no one living today can trace lineage to anyone in the first century B.C. let alone the first century A.D..

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

"He is a Jew, not outwardly, but of the circumcision of the heart". I think Jesus was speaking of false Christians, not ethnic Jews who never pretended to convert to Messianic faith.

Sorry, but the context was about literal Jews who were trying to be justified by keeping the Law. You quoted Romans 2:29. Read the whole chapter. And Paul said it, not Jesus. To try to use that to prove your theory about Revelation 3:9 won't work.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Esaias

How many Christian black Mexicans supported and financed and led and took part in the Bolshevik revolution, the establishment of communism in eastern Europe, or laid the philosophical foundations for communism in books like 'Das Kapital' or the 'Manifesto'?

You're missing the point

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Considering the very harsh things God said of his own people via the prophets, could we not accuse God of the same sort of "bigotry"?, or do Jews as large group do things at times to infuriate their host countries?

My point is, is their really any validity to the "poor Jews who always get persecuted for no reason" line? I emphasize that is a QUESTION. I'm not claiming to have the answer.

Blame the jews for being persecuted everywhere they go? Maybe it's genetic...some people believe blacks are genetically inferior too...but that's called racism.

I don't buy it...nope.

Maybe that's why the Indians were slaughtered by the white man (Christian?), they were genetically predisposed to infuriate the white man.

Maybe Armenians were just genetically inferior and predisposed to infuriate the Turks...

What is it about these people that led others to justly slaughter them? I wonder

It seems we are heading down that same path repeated so many times of conspiracy talk about the evil jews..the cause of all our problems.

Maybe Christians were genetic retards that caused the Romans to blame them for all their problems too and throw them to the lions, blame them for the fire.

Minorities are often the scapegoats

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

We are confusing issues here. I posted a video previously (post #17) and that is what I thought you were originally referring to. When I realized you were referring to the other link, I checked and found I had posted a different one in error (the one you rightfully condemned post #11). I then posted the correct link (post# 53).

Now I hope this will clear the confusion. I'm sure you are not the kind of person who will continue to cry "racism" no matter how one clarifies his remarks.

I didn't cry "racism"...I said you might as well be a nazi skinhead because that website reminds me of a skinhead (nationalist) website

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

The jews I am hating on are Godless and heartless. Far from devout jews who are Gods people.

Let's be fair then and hate on the Christians, Muslims,Atheists, Buddhists etc etc, of the same godless, heartless mentality then.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

People dont understand that. That is part and parcel to how Americans are conditioned. You speak against the Zionists and you are an anti semite nazi who hates all Jews evenly.

Is the Holocaust a zionist deception or did it really happen? Was it only zionists Hitler hated or all Jews>?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I think you are confusing Israel with 'the Jews'.

Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Oh those evil Jews...