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01-28-2009, 07:54 PM
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UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell them
In a few weeks the U.P.C.I. General Board will be meeting... IF you could be there, and have 5 mins to speak, what would your question, concern, or topic be??
Keep in mind, this is made up of people who will influence hundreds of preachers/pastors around the world over the next several years...
What would you say if you REALLY had the opportunity?
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01-28-2009, 08:14 PM
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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Originally Posted by CAD/JPY
In a few weeks the U.P.C.I. General Board will be meeting... IF you could be there, and have 5 mins to speak, what would your question, concern, or topic be??
Keep in mind, this is made up of people who will influence hundreds of preachers/pastors around the world over the next several years...
What would you say if you REALLY had the opportunity?
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For the sake of God and the integrity of Apostolic theology, please address the "magic hair" heresy immediately. Not behind closed doors but with an open and official organization wide ban on such teaching.
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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For the sake of God and the integrity of Apostolic theology, please address the "magic hair" heresy immediately. Not behind closed doors but with an open and official organization wide ban on such teaching.
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I agree with your concerns on this but I hope they wouldn't "ban" the teaching so much as simply come out and talk about it. Address and confront the issue publicly.
We seldom do this. Instead we fight and politic to get our resolutions passed that cancel out the other side's resolutions. With such a wack-a-doddle issue as "magic hair," perhaps we have an opportunity to practice what it's like to be a real church and persuade and win the erring brothers and sisters rather than putting them out like Fred Flintstone's cat.
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01-28-2009, 08:43 PM
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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I agree with your concerns on this but I hope they wouldn't "ban" the teaching so much as simply come out and talk about it. Address and confront the issue publicly.
We seldom do this. Instead we fight and politic to get our resolutions passed that cancel out the other side's resolutions. With such a wack-a-doddle issue as "magic hair," perhaps we have an opportunity to practice what it's like to be a real church and persuade and win the erring brothers and sisters rather than putting them out like Fred Flintstone's cat.
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Right on target!
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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I agree with your concerns on this but I hope they wouldn't "ban" the teaching so much as simply come out and talk about it. Address and confront the issue publicly.
We seldom do this. Instead we fight and politic to get our resolutions passed that cancel out the other side's resolutions. With such a wack-a-doddle issue as "magic hair," perhaps we have an opportunity to practice what it's like to be a real church and persuade and win the erring brothers and sisters rather than putting them out like Fred Flintstone's cat.
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01-29-2009, 12:01 AM
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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Originally Posted by CAD/JPY
In a few weeks the U.P.C.I. General Board will be meeting... IF you could be there, and have 5 mins to speak, what would your question, concern, or topic be??
Keep in mind, this is made up of people who will influence hundreds of preachers/pastors around the world over the next several years...
What would you say if you REALLY had the opportunity?
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Pull in the leaders of the emerging Apostolic church and hear what they have to say, instead of speaking at them, how about talk with them. I think they will see a group of young men who have a heart for God, are missional in the approach and still believe that the surest way to change a heart is the Acts 2:38 experience.
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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Pull in the leaders of the emerging Apostolic church and hear what they have to say, instead of speaking at them, how about talk with them. I think they will see a group of young men who have a heart for God, are missional in the approach and still believe that the surest way to change a heart is the Acts 2:38 experience. |
Amen!
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-29-2009, 07:54 AM
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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Originally Posted by bishoph
For the sake of God and the integrity of Apostolic theology, please address the "magic hair" heresy immediately. Not behind closed doors but with an open and official organization wide ban on such teaching.
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I agree.
An article in the Pentecostal Herald would be a good place to start.
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Pull in the leaders of the emerging Apostolic church and hear what they have to say, instead of speaking at them, how about talk with them. I think they will see a group of young men who have a heart for God, are missional in the approach and still believe that the surest way to change a heart is the Acts 2:38 experience. |
Okay. There's that "emerging" Apostolic church stuff again.
From what I'm seeing there doesn't even seem to be a clear definition or consensus on what that IS.
Im starting to think this "emerging Apostolic church" thing might be a bigger reality on internet forums than in the real world.
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01-29-2009, 08:05 AM
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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I agree.
An article in the Pentecostal Herald would be a good place to start.
Okay. There's that "emerging" Apostolic church stuff again.
From what I'm seeing there doesn't even seem to be a clear definition or consensus on what that IS.
Im starting to think this "emerging Apostolic church" thing might be a bigger reality on internet forums than in the real world.
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Instead of EMERGING read RELEVANCY.
A pastor of a large UPC church finds it a big deal:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...chester+wright
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01-29-2009, 08:29 AM
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Re: UPCI GB Meeting - what would you want to tell
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Thanks for the link.
Based on Bro Wright's letter, it would seem the majority of these are of the "1-stepper" doctrinal view. If so, I cant say I'm surprised at all.
Some of the "standards" stuff, and "preaching in tee shirts and blue jeans" is less of an issue for me. But preaching a watered down salvation plan IS an issue.
I do have to wonder also how many of these new "relevancy" preachers have been to Apostolic bible colleges. I'm guessing it's a lot lower percentage than we've seen from the previous generation. I'm not saying bible college is a necessity to have sound doctrine, but I think if you have a generation of preachers that's getting less and less bible college/seminary education, you're going to have a much greater chance of seeing them departing from sound doctrine.
Anyway...
Sign of the times. It's going to happen whether I like it or not.
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