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06-30-2008, 08:03 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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The reason I find it amusing is because Baptists will put you in Hell in a New York minute for speaking in tongues. This is who you want to use to give credibility to your beliefs on baptism? Come on, Dan. You can do better than that. Can't you find any old time PCI folks' video to share that reinforces your belief? That's what you claim to be, right, a PCIer. Surely, there would be something you could use other than a Baptist who is known for stacking the deck with his theological "debate" program.
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You obviously can't compartmentalize ... I suggest only reading Oneness literature from now on for you ...
I'm sure Light would agree w/ your theological approach to studying.
Rico ... you sound silly on this one ...
Marginalizing the source does not take away the soundness of his grammatical breakdown ... do you have a counter offer?
Perhaps you'd like some help to defend your baptismal regenerationist view?
The strongest argument you guys have is .....????
( I know what it is ...)
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06-30-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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I'll need to listen a few more times. If these scholars cannot agree on the subject.. I doubt if I'd be able to decipher it. So.. you beleive at faith/repentance.. your saved? So.. a person would not be being disobedient, if their Pastor was trinity, and did not baptize in Jesus name. A saint cannot be rebelling, if they are doing what their faith/repentance preacher says to do. right? And they would continue to be saved (in this doctrine) without ever being baptized in the name of Jesus. Am I understanding this correctly?
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How could a person be disobedient if they are being baptized in the way they were taught? I do not believe ... no do 1 steppers believe in OSAS, btw.
Furthermore .... are the not being baptized under the authority and power of the name Jesus was given and gave to his disciple in Matthew 28 ...?
Also ...the biblical meaning of "in the name of "... is entirely a different discussion for another day, Tim.
Do you believe that that salvation hangs on the baptizer getting it right?
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06-30-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
This was a walk in the park ... take away PP and 1399's misvotes ... and this forum overwhelmingly continues to be Apostolic by it's own definition.
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06-30-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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I have experienced and am experiencing all of the above prerequisites.
I do however believe that if a person is baptized in the titles, they may not be lost solely because of their baptism.
Should I leave this forum? For the record, I don't want to leave this forum.
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No way!
There are others here that believe they may not be lost solely because of their baptism - that's God's call.
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06-30-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Why is it a farce?
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It's not - - just proves something he didn't want proven.
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06-30-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
Tim ... I agree that this discussion can go back and forth about the disagreements of the Greek by very learned men ...
Yet the premise that we are saved by grace through faith should be the plumline for understanding soteriology ... or the study of salvation.
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06-30-2008, 08:14 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
More stacking of the no votes by the sore losing, PP.
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06-30-2008, 08:14 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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You obviously can't compartmentalize ... I suggest only reading Oneness literature from now on for you ...
I'm sure Light would agree w/ your theological approach to studying.
Rico ... you sound silly on this one ...
Marginalizing the source does not take away the soundness of his grammatical breakdown ... do you have a counter offer?
Perhaps you'd like some help to defend your baptismal regenerationist view?
The strongest argument you guys have is .....????
(I know what it is ...)
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Dan, I am not the one claiming a PCI heritage. You are. Therefore, the burden for proving your beliefs falls on you, not me. You know as well as I do that credibility is everything when it comes to doctrine. I wouldn't take Ankerberg's word for anything pertaining to salvation any more than I would take some other trinitarian's word for anything pertaining to salvation. The least you could do, since it's you making this claim of being a PCIer, would be to cite other PCIers who agree with your conclusions. I don't think it's too much to ask for, and I certainly don't think that makes me look half as silly as you'd like to think. Anyway, do whatever makes ya feel good, Bruh.
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06-30-2008, 08:15 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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More stacking of the no votes by the sore losing, PP.
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Too funny! 
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06-30-2008, 08:16 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Too funny! |
Multi-personality disorder?
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