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Old 05-14-2016, 08:39 AM
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"""In my estimation, the most important characteristic of a president by far, is his understanding of the Constitution and commitment to liberty. After all, government doesn't exist to "win" or set economic policy or get ahead in trade wars or provide us with everything we don't have or to give us healthcare or to educate us, etc. It exists for the sole purpose of protecting our life, liberty and property so that we can live our lives as we see fit. It is for this reason that I'm encouraged when I hear candidates talk about the founding Constitutional principles of liberty and freedom.

The problem is that Trump never does."""

"""Donald Trump almost never mentions the words "Constitution", "Liberty" or "Freedom" in any context that would make one think that he understands or respects them.

Here is the breakdown:

Constitution
In the 50 speeches I searched, Mr. Trump only used the word "Constitution" in three of them. And contextually, in none of these instances did Trump advocate Constitutional principles or adherence to them. In one instance, he mocked those who had a strict interpretation of the Constitution in regards to surveillance. In another, he mentioned that he personally knows "Constitutional lawyers" who question Ted Cruz's presidential eligibility. The third was part of a direct response to a Town Hall question specifically about Constitutional principles.

Liberty
Similarly, the word "Liberty" was almost non-existent in any of Trump's speeches. Again, it was used in 3 different contexts. Once, in briefly quoting Patrick Henry, once in regards to how he'd like to circumvent liberty in order to police the internet, and several times in reference to Liberty University.

Freedom
As you might surmise, the word "freedom" didn't fare any better than its counterparts. He referenced it a couple of times, once in a nonsensical or unintelligible manner, and once admitting that he would like to somehow modify the 1st Amendment so that he would have more latitude to sue news organizations who publish stories he didn't like.

Let's recap. Out of the 50 speeches that I searched, Trump made mention of the Constitution, Liberty or Freedom in only 5 of them. And of those 5 speeches, 3 instances were of Trump speaking of the inadequacy of them, while one instance was in direct response to a question about Constitutional principles."""

"""You might like the guy. That's fine. But don't tell me he's a freedom-loving Constitutionalist who will restore the Republic. He isn't. And his words back that up."""

http://poorrichardsnews.com/i-search...ty-or-freedom/

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Old 05-14-2016, 08:46 AM
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When I post that Trump as POTUS would destroy conservativism and be no better and likely worse than 4 years of Hillary, this is another reason why.

This should alarm conservatives. It should be more proof that Trump is a fraud and not conservative at all.

But all Trumpsters care about is nationalism and Trump kicking out Hispanics and Latinos and building a Trump wall.

Every day more than ever.... #NeverTrump
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Old 05-16-2016, 09:11 AM
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Re: Trump on the Constitution, Liberty and Freedom

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When I post that Trump as POTUS would destroy conservativism and be no better and likely worse than 4 years of Hillary, this is another reason why.

This should alarm conservatives. It should be more proof that Trump is a fraud and not conservative at all.

But all Trumpsters care about is nationalism and Trump kicking out Hispanics and Latinos and building a Trump wall.

Every day more than ever.... #NeverTrump

Nobody here can take you seriously when you continue to make false, idiotic remarks like, "Trump wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics" and it is because "he wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics" that his followers like him. Your remarks are plain stupid and very misleading. Trump has never said he is trying to drive out Hispanics and Latinos, or that he has anything against these people. Thus, Trumps backers are not supporting this because it is not a reality. Rather it is a fantasy made up by irrational people like yourself. You sound like someone who is pandering to the left wing mantra that enforcing immigration laws is "racist" or "anti-Hispanic" while ignoring how current immigration laws are very generous to Hispanics who come here within the law.

On "constitutional government", Trump's plans to shut down several federal agencies will go a long way to that end. But that fact won't penetrate your closed mind. So keep talking NDavid that all may know you to be mad.
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Old 05-16-2016, 09:23 AM
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Nobody here can take you seriously when you continue to make false, idiotic remarks like, "Trump wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics" and it is because "he wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics" that his followers like him. Your remarks are plain stupid and very misleading. Trump has never said he is trying to drive out Hispanics and Latinos, or that he has anything against these people. Thus, Trumps backers are not supporting this because it is not a reality. Rather it is a fantasy made up by irrational people like yourself. You sound like someone who is pandering to the left wing mantra that enforcing immigration laws is "racist" or "anti-Hispanic" while ignoring how current immigration laws are very generous to Hispanics who come here within the law.

On "constitutional government", Trump's plans to shut down several federal agencies will go a long way to that end. But that fact won't penetrate your closed mind. So keep talking NDavid that all may know you to be mad.


I didn't not say "Trump wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics." Don't lie. Talk about dishonest and misleading posts...your entire post is centered around this made up quote.

My exact quote was: "But all Trumpsters care about is nationalism and Trump kicking out Hispanics and Latinos and building a Trump wall."

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you like to lie and make up quotes which I did not post.

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Old 05-16-2016, 09:36 AM
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I've already stated previously I don't believe Trump will do any of what he claims on immigration. He's not going to build a Trump wall. He's not going to round up and deport illegals. He's not going to tighten immigration laws. Trump is not going to do any of it. Write it down. Underline it. Highlight it.

N david says, and use the actual quote here, don't make stuff up: "Trump is not going to build a wall. Trump is not going to deport illegals. Trump will not tighten immigration laws."

The reason is because Trump is a businessman. Businessmen profit from cheap labor. They don't want more enforcement. They definitely don't want deportations.

Not going to happen. Trumpsters like you are suckers for falling for Trump's lies.

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Old 05-16-2016, 09:44 AM
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But all Trumpsters care about is nationalism and Trump kicking out Hispanics and Latinos and building a Trump wall.
NOT this

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Nobody here can take you seriously when you continue to make false, idiotic remarks like, "Trump wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics"
I did NOT post that, and you know I didn't.


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Your remarks are plain stupid and very misleading.
Says the guy who just lied and made up something which I did NOT post! What a hypocrite!

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Trump has never said he is trying to drive out Hispanics and Latinos, or that he has anything against these people.
I never said Trump did, did I? Read before responding, and stop making up quotes which I did not post.

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Rather it is a fantasy made up by irrational people like yourself.
Ironic coming from the guy who lied and made up a quote I did not post.

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Old 05-16-2016, 10:35 AM
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Re: Trump on the Constitution, Liberty and Freedom

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I didn't not say "Trump wants to kick out Latinos and Hispanics." Don't lie. Talk about dishonest and misleading posts...your entire post is centered around this made up quote.

My exact quote was: "But all Trumpsters care about is nationalism and Trump kicking out Hispanics and Latinos and building a Trump wall."

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you like to lie and make up quotes which I did not post.

NDavid...

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But all Trumpsters care about is nationalism and Trump kicking out Hispanics and Latinos and building a Trump wall.
The emboldened again shows how you continually try to spin out of the idiotic accusations you make. You are indeed subtly inserting a racism charge here against Trump supporters claiming we want Hispanics and Latinos deported (without regard to legal status), and thus you are accusing Trump of specifically targeting people for deportation because of race. Spin and twist though you may, you are obviously a race baiter.
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Old 05-16-2016, 10:46 AM
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NDavid...

The emboldened again shows how you continually try to spin out of the idiotic accusations you make. You are indeed subtly inserting a racism charge here against Trump supporters claiming we want Hispanics and Latinos deported (without regard to legal status), and thus you are accusing Trump of specifically targeting people for deportation because of race. Spin and twist though you may, you are obviously a race baiter.
I have nothing more to say to you until you admit and apologize for lying and making up a statement you claimed I posted which I did not.

"""and thus you are accusing Trump of specifically targeting people for deportation because of race."""

And then you post more lies. I didn't do any such thing.

Pathetic.

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Old 05-16-2016, 10:49 AM
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you are obviously a race baiter.
You claim this after lying and making up a quote which I did not post. Your basis for this claim is a lie. A quote you claim I made which I did not.

I'm not a race baiter, but it's clear you're a liar. And you have reading comprehension problems.

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Old 05-16-2016, 11:06 AM
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Nothing more dishonest that making up a fake quote I didn't make, then trying to bash me for that fake quote.

smh
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