Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

[Thinker]

Originally Posted by n david

Not trying to divert from anything. You lied. In the middle of complaining and trying to expose or bust a minister for lying --- YOU LIED!

Oh, the irony. Oh, the hypocrisy.

I'm encouraging those involved to have this guy Walks_in_islam investigated. They are looking into it why he stated that the Bro. Wilson didn't pay for his rental of the chapel and some of his other statements

This manipulation and blatant twisting has to stop. And it will.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Thinker

I'm encouraging those involved to have this guy Walks_in_islam investigated. They are looking into it why he stated that the Bro. Wilson didn't pay for his rental of the chapel and some of his other statements

This manipulation and blatant twisting has to stop. And it will.

The poster is anti-Semitic and apparently hates Pentecostals, so I don't know why he is allowed to post here. The real irony is he purports to be in the religion of peace. But, he has shown no peace in his posts.

[Thinker]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The poster is anti-Semitic and apparently hates Pentecostals, so I don't know why he is allowed to post here. The real irony is he purports to be in the religion of peace. But, he has shown no peace in his posts.

This "Walks_in_islam" guy is an embarrassment to AFF I love it here but not with this kind of foolishness

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Prove your accusations against this man.

I already attached my proof. I already attached photos that were labelled "service" that were not a service. I already attached what date they were identified as not being a service. I already attached a screenshot of a church anniversary video made more than a year later with a photo taken from a play that has nothing to do with a church. I already date-stamped the exact day that these photos were exposed and the next day, more than 18 months after they were used, this man finally admitted that they were not related to his services.

I already noted that this chapel has NOTHING to to with the United Nations and there is no "clearance" required to post photos of activities inside this chapel. I also, to demonstrate this point, posted an image search with dozens of other photos posted at various times of dozens of other activities inside this same chapel.

This could have been cleared up at any time over the last year and a half. It was not until an outsider noticed and pointed out that a photo from a 2009 play was being used to represent and was labelled as "bible study" on the church website and "service" on Twitter. Only after this, new tweets about "clearances" and "wanting to show what the chapel looked like" were issued.

I say, based on this, that a deliberate mistepresentation was caught and everything afterwards was damage control.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Thinker

This "Walks_in_islam" guy is an embarrassment to AFF I love it here but not with this kind of foolishness

Its embarassing to explain why one of your leaders would post a photo of a play and label it as a service? No kidding.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Thinker

I'm encouraging those involved to have this guy Walks_in_islam investigated. They are looking into it why he stated that the Bro. Wilson didn't pay for his rental of the chapel and some of his other statements

This manipulation and blatant twisting has to stop. And it will.

Add to this that I also said he doesnt pay for his plane tickets, lincoln, or his hotels either. Have your investigators look into that too. Bring the proof that he does to my trial. You can read it to me before you light the pile at the base of that stake LOL

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by n david

Don't trip over your two left feet trying to walk back your post. Bet you wish you could go back and edit it out now that you've been busted yourself.

You complain and scream that he's lying for using a stock photo of an event at the Chapel which was not of a service he was leading. Then you turn around, post a lie yourself, and claim his caption of the photo said "my service." You even put quotation marks around it. And now you're trying to downplay it and walk back your statement.

Hypocrite.

LOL

No, im in pretty good shape holding a tweet photo of a 2009 play captioned as a 2012 service. Tweeting something like that with ones name stapled to the tweet is pretty bold. Sticking it on your Facebook page and in your 2014 church anniversary video just seals the case. By then, its quite evident you're using that 2009 photo to represent your "ministry".

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Thinker

I'm encouraging those involved to have this guy Walks_in_islam investigated. They are looking into it why he stated that the Bro. Wilson didn't pay for his rental of the chapel and some of his other statements

This manipulation and blatant twisting has to stop. And it will.

I think you are right. The manipulation and twisting should stop. I believe the Methodists who own the building and the photo and rights to the photo should handle the determination of right or wrong on this issue.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I already noted that this chapel has NOTHING to to with the United Nations and there is no "clearance" required to post photos of activities inside this chapel. I also, to demonstrate this point, posted an image search with dozens of other photos posted at various times of dozens of other activities inside this same chapel.

Wrong.

"CCUN [Church Center for the United Nations] is home to many denominational offices to the U.N. as well as to other religious and secular nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) in consultative relationship with the U.N. The staff of these offices serve as communication links between their constituencies, U.N. officials and government representatives by exchanging information, providing resources and working to achieve shared goals. CCUN’s prime location puts resident NGOs, whether church-based or secular, in a key position to advance our common values of peace and justice."

"During U.N. conferences such as the Commission on the Status of Women and the Permanent Forum on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, CCUN plays host to visitors from around the world from many religions, languages and ethnicities. It is here that scores of women, representatives from indigenous movements and others are able to gather and have their voices heard and amplified through the collaborative efforts of this community and the numerous side events, briefings and strategic conversations with governmental officials, U.N. personnel and NGOs"

"No clearance required...." Your demonstration and posting of pictures means nothing. Do you know the people who posted those photos? How do you know they didn't post the photos after obtaining permission?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

LOL

No, im in pretty good shape holding a tweet photo of a 2009 play captioned as a 2012 service. Tweeting something like that with ones name stapled to the tweet is pretty bold. Sticking it on your Facebook page and in your 2014 church anniversary video just seals the case. By then, its quite evident you're using that 2009 photo to represent your "ministry".

Except you lied. It wasn't captioned as "my service."

Again, feel free to express your outrage at other websites using stock photos.