End time Revival

[DaveC519]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Heard a lot about a great end time revival. I really do not see it in scripture. I do see that there would be a falling away though

"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
The "falling away" along with perseverance of the saints.

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matt 24:12-14)
The "Last Day Revival".

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Heard a lot about a great end time revival. I really do not see it in scripture. I do see that there would be a falling away though

Are you pre or post trib? Did you read my posts about WHY an end time revival? Two Witness Prophets? The Manchild Ministry? The Angel preaching the everlasting gospel? YHWH killing millions of his enemies through various judgments?

A right understanding of the book of Revelation makes a difference. Having said that, many who at least think they are saved will wind up with the mark of the beast.

[Michael The Disciple]

Does the Spirit encourage us to believe there will be Apostles and Prophets in the great tribulation?

Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. Rev 18:20

There it is! The end time Babylon will be killing APOSTLES AND PROPHETS. That lets us know they are coming! The terrible drought we are now suffering for truth will one day be over.

Another reason why there will be revival in the end time tribulation.

[votivesoul]

Never discount personal revival!

God may call men and women, few in number, to ascend to new and greater heights in the Spirit. It may not be a revival of quantity but of quality.

If I don't win 1,000 souls in my life, but become eminently Christ-like, then I can feel confident that I have experienced personal revival. Collective revival always starts with an individual feeling the "deep calleth to deep", and responding in faith to that call.

And when one or two go down into the depths of God's Spirit, more and more are likely to come with, until a large number of men and women are operating on a whole other level.

The Great Awakening happened this way. Azusa happened this way.

If only we all could get into unity, faces to the ground, hearts in His hands, crying out to God and stop "playing church", we might see a move in this country that would once again shake the gates of hell.

Personal comfort is the number one revival killer in the world.

[OneAccord]

I don't know about an Endtime Revival. I think its something to hope for and to shoot for, but until we find the key to an outpouring of the Holy Ghost, Pentecost or Azusa style, we'll come up short.

The fact is... lets be honest now, who among us really want it enough? I've said it on here before, and I'll say it again. To have an Acts 2:4 experience, we'll need an Acts 1:14 experience. Before we can get to Joel 2:28, we'll have to experience Joel 2:12.

And, going back to Acts 1 and 2, the disciples were united before, during, and after Pentecost. Folks, we just ain't there yet. Unity is the key. Mention "unity" and you're branded a "heretic", a "compromiser" and an "ecumenentist" (sorry for the spelling). I know... I've been called all that and worse. But "unity" was the gist of Jesus' prayer in John 17, and if we are to survive as God's church, "unity" must be what we strive for.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Does the Spirit encourage us to believe there will be Apostles and Prophets in the great tribulation?

Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. Rev 18:20

There it is! The end time Babylon will be killing APOSTLES AND PROPHETS. That lets us know they are coming! The terrible drought we are now suffering for truth will one day be over.

Another reason why there will be revival in the end time tribulation.

Dear Michael

I usually side with you for most of the time you have the proper interpretation of the text, however this time I must disagree, for I believe you are misinterpreting this verse.

This verse say to the Apostles and prophets to rejoice, but it does not follow that those Apostles and prophets are present upon the earth.

Babylon could actually refer to the system which in the past killed the Apostles and the prophets.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Dear Michael

I usually side with you for most of the time you have the proper interpretation of the text, however this time I must disagree, for I believe you are misinterpreting this verse.

This verse say to the Apostles and prophets to rejoice, but it does not follow that those Apostles and prophets are present upon the earth.

Babylon could actually refer to the system which in the past killed the Apostles and the prophets.

Exactly. The Old Testament highlighted word by prophets, the new by apostles.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Dear Michael

I usually side with you for most of the time you have the proper interpretation of the text, however this time I must disagree, for I believe you are misinterpreting this verse.

This verse say to the Apostles and prophets to rejoice, but it does not follow that those Apostles and prophets are present upon the earth.

Babylon could actually refer to the system which in the past killed the Apostles and the prophets.

So is it your belief that Mystery Babylon is not a reality in the end time?

Have you noticed the context concerning the judgment of God against Babylon?

That it occurs 6 verses before the coming of Christ?

Observe.....

Rev. 19:1-4

1And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. 5And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

Watch what follows 6 verses later.

Rev 19:11-15

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.


Is this not the end time? Is this not the second coming of Yeshua Christ?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

I don't know about an Endtime Revival. I think its something to hope for and to shoot for, but until we find the key to an outpouring of the Holy Ghost, Pentecost or Azusa style, we'll come up short.

The fact is... lets be honest now, who among us really want it enough? I've said it on here before, and I'll say it again. To have an Acts 2:4 experience, we'll need an Acts 1:14 experience. Before we can get to Joel 2:28, we'll have to experience Joel 2:12.

And, going back to Acts 1 and 2, the disciples were united before, during, and after Pentecost. Folks, we just ain't there yet. Unity is the key. Mention "unity" and you're branded a "heretic", a "compromiser" and an "ecumenentist" (sorry for the spelling). I know... I've been called all that and worse. But "unity" was the gist of Jesus' prayer in John 17, and if we are to survive as God's church, "unity" must be what we strive for.

Ok if unity is more important than truth, faith, or holiness exactly WHAT should we be unified around?

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok if unity is more important than truth, faith, or holiness exactly WHAT should we be unified around?

Exactly that..... "truth, faith and holiness".