Study: Same-Sex Households Endanger Kids

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Aquila did you ever produce these highly respected theologians that Prax requested in another thread? I understood your schedule was just too tight to do it that day... Yet you again are making reference to these nameless original language experts. Hmmm
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I'm not an expert in their understanding. And I'm not debating for their cause. I'm just illutrating that there are various interpretations of these subjects. I've read some articles that reference their works, etc. I'm sure you can google various liberal gay affirming theologians. What I find most interesting in the debate is how various rabbinical theologians interpret things. Like Christians, they have views ranging from the ultra-conservative to the rather liberal.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by Timmy

My son, being gay, and hearing over and over and over again that he is evil, thought of killing himself every day.

He isn't the only one.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Azzan

He isn't the only one.

I'm sorry, Azzan...and Timmy. I can only pray my children never face this kind of personal angst.

Assuming the stats are true, (which I think could be a whole new thread) I think there is room for the idea that the homosexual community is associated with other sexual freedoms, promiscuity and in some cases, nefarious factions of society. The first and third stats could be related to those possibilities. Another consideration is that molestation and abuse are higher in adoptive homes and homes with step-parents than in biological homes, and adoption (or having at least one step-parent) is common in gay families. It would be interesting to compare children in gay-adoptive homes to children in straight-adoptive homes. Likewise, we could compare the abuse of children by a step-parent to abuse of children by a gay step-parent. I have a feeling the statistics would be similar.

As for the second stat, I find the phrasing to be suspiciously vague.

"Rape is rampant: 31 percent of children raised by a lesbian mother and 25 percent raised by a homosexual man report that they were forced to have sex against their will, compared to 8 percent from intact families."

Note that it doesn't say "forced to have sex against their will with a parent." This supports the idea that it is more dangerous for a child to have a non-parent in the home.

All of these factors combined, I can see how gay homes could be more high-risk for children, but not simply because the parent is gay. It has more to do with other aspects of the environment, IMO.

[HolyFire]

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz

Sorry, Timmy. Hope your son is doing well.

I will pray for your son Timmy. I have a friend and a relative who have fallen to that seducing spirit.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by HolyFire

I will pray for your son Timmy. I have a friend and a relative who have fallen to that seducing spirit.

That is what being born again is all about. Becoming a new Creature. Leaving the past.

We do not have biological science demostrate gay from birth.

My favorite is identical twin studies. Every time we have identical twins, they have matching eye, skin and hair color. In the case of gay, if one is gay, only 50% is the other one gay. Remember they have identical environment until birth and often nearly the same after being born.

With monozygotic cases, if you give one dope and they get addicted and don't give the other dope, they do NOT become addicts.

Research in the paraphila world is not politically correct.

[SiblingRevelry]

Originally Posted by coadie

That is what being born again is all about. Becoming a new Creature. Leaving the past.

We do not have biological science demostrate gay from birth.

My favorite is identical twin studies. Every time we have identical twins, they have matching eye, skin and hair color. In the case of gay, if one is gay, only 50% is the other one gay. Remember they have identical environment until birth and often nearly the same after being born.

With monozygotic cases, if you give one dope and they get addicted and don't give the other dope, they do NOT become addicts.

Research in the paraphila world is not politically correct.

Being baptized with the Holy Ghost at age 16 gave me no protection from chronic major depression. And what has given me life was not being prayed over but having my illness diagnosed and treated with medication. I don't ever want to be in the position I was in as a young woman, where I was depressed because I couldn't keep the standards and thought it would be better to die than to keep sinning.

But I still hear people say that the Holy Ghost can fix everything. No, maybe not, and it's probably politically incorrect to say that around here.

[MissBrattified]

It doesn't matter whether or not people are born gay. People are born sinners, period. That doesn't make sin okay. If someone is born with a predisposition to be promiscuous, a liar, a thief, or if their environment as a child sets them up for that sort of lifestyle, it still doesn't make it acceptable in God's eyes.

The idea that a person could be born with a predisposition to be sexually attracted to the same gender only affects our understanding of the whole person; it doesn't affect our understanding of what constitutes sin.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It doesn't matter whether or not people are born gay. People are born sinners, period. That doesn't make sin okay. If someone is born with a predisposition to be promiscuous, a liar, a thief, or if their environment as a child sets them up for that sort of lifestyle, it still doesn't make it acceptable in God's eyes.

The idea that a person could be born with a predisposition to be sexually attracted to the same gender only affects our understanding of the whole person; it doesn't affect our understanding of what constitutes sin.

Best post of the thread.

[Cindy]

God does NOT hate people, he hates sin. Whatever that sin is, is abhorrent to him. And he doesn't want anyone to die unsaved. I don't understand the same sex attraction in any way. But, I would not treat anyone unkindly because they are.

Some fight sin for years and although maybe not committing them, still have to fight.

[DaveC519]

Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry

Being baptized with the Holy Ghost at age 16 gave me no protection from chronic major depression. And what has given me life was not being prayed over but having my illness diagnosed and treated with medication. I don't ever want to be in the position I was in as a young woman, where I was depressed because I couldn't keep the standards and thought it would be better to die than to keep sinning.

But I still hear people say that the Holy Ghost can fix everything. No, maybe not, and it's probably politically incorrect to say that around here.

Hello SiblingRevelry,

By coincidence, I also received the baptism of the Holy Ghost at age 16, and I also suffer from depression (it runs in my family) and continue to do so. Receiving the Holy Ghost did not remove the illness from my life, but in God I found relief from its symptoms. For a period of time I took medicine, but was uncomfortable with the side effects. While I would never advise someone else to stop taking medicine, I can report I was able to find relief from the symptoms through prayer and communion with God. I have come to view it as having a "thorn in the flesh", and it causes me to seek and find my strength in God. Dwelling in the presence of the Lord has become all important to me, for "...in Thy presence is fulness of joy..." (Ps 16:11).