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Originally Posted by TheLegalist
Good but OSAS teaches that and so do antinomian groups. I know people that teach repentance doesn't save, that teach stricter than the UPC and believe in ETERNAL SECURITY. Because "you should" doesn't mean your understanding of "judgment" is right.
My point was your judgment system is lawless in the end. God judges a certain way. SHOW ME THE LINE IN THE SAND from scripture because he is faithful in ALL THINGS! Also it's not all about HIS DOING it is also about your response as well unto judgment. which somehow you don't agree with blows my mind. Jesus clearly teaches what I have shown through John, Matthew, James, Paul, Mark, Luke and OT by Moses of Abraham.
I never said you taught lawless in the sense of saying it is ok to do whatever. Again it is about judgment and people that don't treat salvation(both present and future aspects) with fear and trembling will always lighten the day of judgment with a false security that they have already obtained with a form of false doctrine of a eschatological acquittal. Seen this view and style of thought way to many times.
sorry but I did not know I had brought up baptism.(way to switch subjects  ) You assume to much. I have made my opinion clear on this several times. You should be biblically correct in everyway possible from the heart. How God judges not being baptized in his name.... I have no idea as the Bible does not say. Would I be fearful? Yes! Would I condemn? No! As it's not my judgment! |
Sorry, my apologies, I got you confused with Light who responded earlier with the baptism thing.
It's still not lawless in the end. It is the law (word) which first reveals that I am a law breaker. It is God who opens my eyes to see that. He is the One First Cause who seeks and if He doesn't draw me to Him, I'll NEVER get there. So, HE is the author and finisher of my faith. Certainly I must respond to His "advances" toward me. However, I am living under a different law. I am living a law that desires to please Him. It is the law of love. Perfect love casts out fear. Therefore I have no fear of being lost but confidence toward Him. Not an arrogant confidence but a humble faith filled confidence that "He who has begun a good work in me will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ."
And regardless of what you've seen "way too many times" I still wake up every morning KNOWING absolutely that I am saved. Not eternal security in the Calvanistic sense but security in knowing that I know that I know. I know because I belong to Him. I know because I have surrendered to Him and continually desire for Him to have His way in my life. I don't fear the trumpet call and I don't fear the grim reaper. Like Job, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him."
Can I be lost? Absolutely! But it's not as easy as most people think. My salvation is not fragile. It is strong. It is secure. It has been purchased by the blood of the Lamb who has the victory over death, hell and the grave. I love Him so I desire to follow His will. However, even that desire, I believe is from Him. I am thankful for all the He has done for me. I am engraved upon the palms of His hands and am the apple of His eye. I am not chained to the cross, I am free to fall at the foot of the cross......every day!
Biblically, it appears, our deeds WILL have something to do with our REWARD level to whatever degree God desires. However, my salvation is settled. It does not rest upon MY works, it rests upon His work. "On Christ the solid Rock I stand.....ALL other ground is sinking sand!"
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