God's Grace, Love or Mercy will not SAVE you ...

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Originally Posted by BobDylan

I'm not arguing that grace isn't involved throughout a persons life.. But there is a difference between a general peovisional grace that God grants to all mankind, and grace that brings salvation. The drawing of God does just that, it draws, but the drawing doesn't save unless the individual chooses to yield to that drawing in complete submission. The grace of God alone provided the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. While the blood has the ability to save every human that has ever existed, it can only save those who willingly and fully submit to the gospel. Saving grace is only availalbe through faith. While the love of God has provided a means of salvation, the love of God alone does not and cannot save. By Grace THROUGH FAITH. The Grace part is God's responsibility... The FAITH part is ours.

Can you support this with any scripture?

How about this scripture below?

Ephesians 1:3-6
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.

John 6:37–39
37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has

2 Timothy 2:11–13 (ESV)
11 The saying is trustworthy, for: If we have died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us; 13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful—for he cannot deny himself. Funny, I can't find any scripture that says, "if I am not baptized or speak in tongues I have denied God.


Remember, obedience is always required but it is obedience out of a new heart and a life with God. You can obey all you want but until you have true faith all your obedience is nothing. The issues here is that a certain group of people consider "their doctrine" to be the obedience that saves instead of faith in Christ's obedience.