DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Also, to the comment about people backsliding in America, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it has not as much to do with the power in the churches as it has to do with the prosperity in the nation. If these folks come from countries that have no professional sports, no leisure activities, and no money to attend them even if they existed, it could well be a contributing factor when they come to a country with 500 channels on basic cable, more to do OUTSIDE the church that inside the church, and money with which to indulge these pleasures. Just a thought.

I have to agree with you here. I think that we are very distracted with all of our toys and gadgets. And I think, in some cases, leadership, which you termed as "power in the churches" has something to do with it also.

But, I believe the statistic is true when it says that no matter the size of the congregation, you will have 25% doing the majority of the giving and the work. That tells me that no matter the situation in the church, you will find faithful and sincere people.

And, I haven't been around here very much lately, so I will concede that maybe I've missed some threads, but at least on this thread, I haven't seen anyone trying to convince anyone to leave the UPCI. I've only seen people discuss the validity of an organizational position. The nastiest posts I've seen on this thread have come from an ultracon, defending the position. And, to be honest, my experience is that there is just as much pressure from those still in the mothership placed on those who have left as the other way around.

There's that perception coming into play - in the eye of the beholder. No sense in discussing this any further.

Either way, I enjoyed the discussion, thanks!

Always! Thanks for the input!