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Old 03-23-2009, 12:14 PM
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Re: Hell In Question

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Consider some things…

I Corinthians 15:22.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
The implication from Paul here is one of equal comparisons. In Adam “all” die. No exceptions. This extends to all of mankind. And then this is put on equal comparison with Christ…in Christ shall “all” be made alive. For this to make any the sense the two have to be comparably equal. Else Paul would have to have truly said, “…in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall some be made alive.” If “all” doesn’t mean “all” without any exception in both clauses, Paul’s comparing apples to oranges.

Consider also what Christ said…

John 12:32.
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Did he mean “all” or not? Do we take him literally? Do we trust that he is able to accomplish what he set out to accomplish?
All IN CHRIST shall be made alive.

Have you forgotten what it means to be IN CHRIST?

If any man be IN CHRIST he is a new creation....2 Cor. 5:17

1 Cor. 15 is all about the RESURRECTION of those in Christ. Read it from beginning to end you will hopefully be enlightened.

When Jesus said he will draw ALL MEN to himself he means ALL NATIONS as opposed to just the Jews.

How do we know this? Because Paul tells us that not everyone is called.

22: For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24: But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25: Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26: For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 1 Cor. 1:22-26

Note verse 26. This shows us everyone is not called. Verse 24 implies the same.

Individuals will be drawn/called out of every tribe and tongue of men. But not all individuals of each.

Ultimate Rec also fails to take seriously that Yeshua understood that a very small minority would find the WAY TO LIFE.

The UR people always say God would be weak if he did not save everyone. Yeshua said this without apology.

23: Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25: When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Luke 13:23-25

The Lord did not make some nice speech about why God would not be glorified if he did not save all. Instead he admonishes them to STRIVE TO ENTER lest they perish! He confirms what the one asking the question wanted to know. FEW WILL BE SAVED. STRIVE that you may be one of them.
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