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Originally Posted by keith4him
So how again did the Patriot act hurt you personally? Talk about fear mongering. Not one documentated case where this act has abused a innocent American, not one!
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"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
It hurt me because according to the 4th amendment, I still have protection against "unreasonable searches and seizures." As the NSA does business now, my phone call, as a U.S. citizen, from my friend who calls from Ecquador once every two months or so can be wiretapped and eavesdropped on without his name being on a terrorist watch list or for any reason at all. There isn't any smack of a warrant because of criminal activity.
If a person's name is on a terrorist watch list or the government has reason to believe there is criminal behavior, then by all means, go get a warrant and tap the phone. Wiretapping a phone and eavesdropping just because is a violation of the 4th amendment and should be stopped immediately. Agreed?