Why don't some speak in tongues?

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Well, that's just swell for you, MOW, but I don't believe it is scriptural. And by teaching genuine repentance makes one "rapture ready", some folks will not see the need to seek to be filled with the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And if a believer does not have the Spirit of Christ in them, they are not part of the body of Christ...none of His nor are they born again.

The problem here is the question of when someone recieves the Spirit of Christ. You say at repentance, but you have no Biblical proof. I say someone can receive the Spirit anytime AFTER repentance with the sign of speaking in other tongues (this is not the gift of tongues). If you want to start a thread on "When does someone recieve the Spirit of Christ?", I'd be happy to take part in it.

I've stated what I believe many times and I don't cloak my beliefs either. I take it from your response that if I say what I believe you will not ........ me for playing the role of a judge, is that correct? I'm usually very straightforward in saying what I beleive. I don't try to circumvent stating my beliefs to with sugar coating or gobblygook as you call it.

There is also this other accusation against 3 steppers going around that states we say that if don't speak in tongues you aren't saved. It implies that speaking in tongues saves us which is not what I believe at all. The emphasis is then on speaking in tongues and not on receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit. Another damned if you do and damned if you don't arguement that goes around in circles.

I think we all agree with you that we must have the Holy Spirit. Ephesisans 1:13-15 speaks of being sealed with the Holy Spirit when we believed. It doesn't mention tongues and neither does Acts 2:38 say that tongues are essential for the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13-15 (New Living Translation)

13 And now you Gentiles have also heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago. 14 The Spirit is God’s guarantee that he will give us the inheritance he promised and that he has purchased us to be his own people. He did this so we would praise and glorify him.