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Old 03-19-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley View Post
IF the guy said he wasn't preaching standards any longer they should leave period. IF he didn't say that they should either get their hearing checked or stop lying.
I didn't see where the pastor said or HO said that he wasn't preaching standards any longer....

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He said that people can come to church as they are. Doesn't matter to him if women cut their hair or wear pants, only that they come to church and be saved. He said that it's not our works that save us anyway.
As stand alone statements, I wouldn't disagree with this.... in my church, there are many sinners who will come as they are (with no standards), get saved, and later hear standards/holiness preaching that they can apply to their lives.

The statement "He said that it's not our works that save us anyway" is true, in the context of salvation.... which is what he was talking about at the time. it is because of His grace and mercy that we can even have the chance of salvation, not by our "works" (trying to live right, clean up our lives, etc) before we come to God. Mind you, we still have to repent, be baptized in Jesus name, receive the HG.... but it wasn't because of us, it was because of Him that we can be saved.... hopefully that makes sense....

perhaps I missed seeing something you did???
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