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Originally Posted by pelathais
But that assessment was wrong. The US founding fathers never made war against civilian populations in their fight with the British and they promoted institutions of democracy and freedom.
Che killed civilians, took civilian hostages and generally terrorized the countryside wherever he went. Comparing him to the founders is wrong. If you want to make a moral equivalence argument- you have to find two groups who behaved in a morally equivalent way.
Che Guevara and George Washington were not moral equivalents. In order to "deal well with international diplomacy" you've got to get your own moral values straight. Deliberately targeting civilian populations to advance your "revolution" is immoral. Compromising this principle will destroy any understanding that you might have been able to garner from like-minded people overseas. it's better to stick to the "high road" and not muddy ourselves trying to "understand" terrorists.
Now, what was your man Obama's top foreign policy wonk doing in Damascus last week at the Ayatollah's terrorist anniversary party? And what does this say about Obama's "understanding" of foreign affairs?
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You're emotionally unbalanced or something. I never said that the Founders were equivalent to terrorists. I said that in the British mind they were. The Founding Fathers were considered "revolutionaries" and "rebels". We see them attacking British interests with acts like those seen in the Boston Tea Party.
Now, I stand behind the Founding Fathers. But back in the day some British political nut would argue (like you are) that I was standing behind revolutionaries that have destroyed expensive British assets and who were provoking a war.
I know it's a bit complex in it's rationale, but it's true. For all I know those people just see Che as a symbol of revolution. They may not even agree with all of his tactics. For all I know those people might have family who died in Che's rebellion and the flag is a reminder to them to stand for Democracy. Without being in their heads I don't know exactly what they think. But from dealing with people from different countries and systems I do realize that they may have a vastly different opinion on a matter than I do. And they don't see themselves as terrorist nutcases.
I think Obama cleared it up when he expressed that it was inappropriate and didn't represent his personal views.
For crying out loud. As I said above, I know Neo-Nazis that vote strictly Republican tickets. They have Swastikas hanging in their offices. Am I to assume, as you are assuming that Democrats favor Che's rebellion, that for some reason Republicans are Neo-Nazis?
These are nutcases. And only nutcases are going to take them seriously.
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