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Old 12-15-2007, 11:21 PM
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Apostolic Democrats believe in a social agenda that addresses the issues poor and middle class women face when finding themselves in a crisis pregnancy. For example, they support SCHIP and other initiatives that will cover children and pregnant women with health insurance. Many support state subsidized child care initiatives to offer incentive to work and assistance for poor working mothers who might need assistance. Subsidized housing for single mothers, and other TANF programs.

So yes Apostolic Democrats, and religious Democrats in general, believe in using America's tax dollars to assist women who might otherwise choose to abort. They understand that it may cost us something as a society and a nation to save lives by helping those who ordinarily would choose abortion.

Sadly the conservative position is just rhetoric. Ban abortion. That's all they offer. No help for poor or working class women with crisis pregnancies. You can be assured that if any program addressing the needs of women in a crisis pregnancy will cost money...a conservative will rather save their money than assist a woman in choosing life. Money often trumps life in the conservative mind. Most conservatives will tell you that if paying tax dollars to subsidize children's health insurance or child care will save nearly 300,000 unborn lives a year, they'd rather that 300,000 unborn children be aborted than use tax dollars to support said programs. That means...money trumps the value of life, plain and simple.

The Democrats proposed a legislative agenda that would have reduced America's abortion rate by 95% in ten years. The conservatives rejected it because it would have meant using tax dollars to do so. Tax dollars they wanted to give their corporate contributors in expensive tax subsidies and pork projects.

Gallup reports that 43% of registered Democrats are Pro-Life. Christian, and Apostolic, Democrats don't believe in just sitting by and watching a million children be aborted ever year. They believe that we as a nation must address the issues that cause women to consider and choose abortion.

I think it's highly unfair to paint Christian and Apostolic Democrats as "Demon Crats" etc. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Here's a question. Before Chile began to lighten up on it's abortion law it had one of the highest abortion rates in the world (99 per every 1000 pregnancies) even though it had some of the toughest laws banning abortion. Belgium is VERY liberal and is a Pro-Choice nation, however, it has one of the lowest abortion rates in the entire world (8 per ever 1000 pregnancies). Which nation has more blood on it's hands?

The difference is that Belgium is addressing issues women and families face in the economic environment today. Chile wasn't. Abortion's legality wasn't even a factor in the over all abortion rate of the nation.

Those are the cold hard unemotional facts.
Nice try. It is primarily the conservatives who pour money into crisis pregnancy centers. Conservatives primarily espouse personal responsibility and liberals (including the majority of Democrats) believe that it is the government's responsibility to support every Tom, Dick and Harry whose poor choices have put them in the difficult situations they are in. Therefore, the "apostolic" democrats have these people "beholding" to them for their sustenance.

It is the "apostolic" democrats who believe that everyone in the US should have government sponsored health care no matter what poor choices put them into that condition. I for one vehemently oppose using my tax dollars for those who develop cancer from smoking or other life style choices. Everyone in the US has a choice as to how they are going to live their lives. It is not MY responsibility to care for them when their world comes crashing down.

Conservatives believe in helping people make better choices. Liberals support them after they make the bad choices and enable them to do so as well. If more people in this country were held responsible for their own actions, there would be less need to support them. IMO
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