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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Sure. But there are times when it is worse than others, and our culture seems to be one of indulgence, more so than in eras past, and more than other parts of the world. The laxness and immorality of societies seems to ebb and flow by times, and this seems to be one of those "flow" times.
Anyway...I'll take your explanation and raise you...if its a humanity issue, then don't we have to address it a bit more firmly? Instead of making allowances for our humanity? If humanity in general has a problem being self-disciplined enough to practice moderation, then aren't we treading on dangerous ground when we ask for moderation?
You seem to be contradicting yourself, stating on one hand overindulgence is a humanity issue, and then on the flip side implying that Europeans, "wine drinkers", are not indulgent? If it is indeed a humanity issue, then all cultures deal with it.
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And you still fail to understand drinking in moderation is a biblical principle.
We can flip this one a million ways .... whether it's not your conviction or not ....
It's permissible under any context or historical era.