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Originally Posted by loran adkins
What is death? Jesus told the woman at the well in Sameria that " if you believe in me you shall never die" how does that work in the way you see things? Where does it say or talk about the fate of all humans? If we are talking about only the nation of Israel, and I am talking about the whole nation not just Judah or Israel as they are spoken of in Rev. as the twelve tribes. The judgement was to the apostate Israel as a whole.
You can make your play on words all you want, but we that were not of the natural seed of Abraham are become of the seed of Abraham by faith in Christ in the new covenant. The old covenant had to come to an end in order for the new covenant to come into place in all its fullness. The old covenant came to its final end at the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. This was the end of all prophecy as I see it.
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So non Israelites have no fate after death, good or bad? Just a big blank "Nothing to see here"? No data?
Romans 2:5-16 KJV
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; [6] Who will render to every man according to his deeds: [7] To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: [8] But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, [9] Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; [10] But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: [11] For there is no respect of persons with God. [12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; [13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [14] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: [15] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
[16] In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Clearly Paul had access to data you claim to be absent, for he speaks of judgment to ALL whether Jew or Gentile, good or bad.