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Originally Posted by Esaias
I don't think you have been paying attention to what I have been posting. I explained all this numerous times.
One LAST time for you:
God's law is THE ENTIRE BIBLE. "Man shall live by every word of God". Thus, every word of God is the rule of conduct for man. A rule of conduct for humans is a "law". Thus, the entire Bible is God's law.
Within the Bible, the word "law" occurs numerous times, and there are DIFFERENT MEANINGS to the word depending on the context.
For example, the word "law" can refer to the Pentateuch as written literature, it can refer to the various commands of God, it can refer to the old covenant, it can refer to Judaism (the traditions of the elders aka the Talmud), it can refer to human decrees, it can refer to various customs practiced by various people groups and nations, etc. But in its widest theological sense it means the entire Bible as the final authority for faith and practice.
The laws of God, that is to say, God's commandments, statutes, etc, existed prior to Sinai and the old covenant. When the covenant was made at Sinai, they were incorporated into that covenant, along with the priesthood and the laws of sacrifice and offering.
With the new covenant, the laws of sacrifice and offering and priesthood underwent a change, from Levi to Melchizedek.
The moral laws of God which govern human behaviour, which were incorporated into the old Sinaitic covenant, were incorporated into the new covenant.In the old covenant at Sinai, they were written on tables of stone and copied into a book (the "letter"). In the new covenant they are written on the heart and placed into the minds of God's people. The old covenant could not produce obedience, because the law of God was EXTERNAL to the individual member of the covenant. The new covenant does produce obedience because the law of God is now INTERNAL to the individual member of the covenant.
I know full well you disagree with all of this, but I have seen that quite frankly you yourself don't even rationally know why you disagree or in what way, OTHER than by golly you are just not going to be remembering the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Your responses and statements and assertions and "reasons" are proof positive your doctrine is irrational, contradictory, and unscriptural. You keep making statements that demonstrate you simply don't seem to know what the Bible actually says (let alone what the Bible actually means). I mean, it is what it is.
As I said before, the more I interact with antisabbatarians, the more I hear and read their "arguments and proofs", the more I am convinced they absolutely have no idea what they are talking about.
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This is the most comprehensive posts of your position that I have read. I believe this is the first time you have posted a distinction between moral law and ceremonial law (priesthood, sacrifices, etc..). My position is much the same as yours, but I don’t agree with you as the Sabbath being a moral issue. You say I just refuse to keep the Sabbath, and that infers that I am just a reprobate who refuses to believe the truth, which is not the case. There are many scriptures that have been posted that speak of this better covenant we are now under. This scripture below is support of the fact, we no longer must observe sabbatical days and dietary laws.
Colossians 2:16-17
16......Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17......Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
I have said before, I don’t think someone is wrong to keep a sabbath day on Saturday. God honors faith and if someone believes Saturday is a day they must keep as a sabbatical day, then that is fine. I just don’t think you can keep “the Sabbath” outside of entering the rest that Jesus promised to his believers.
IMO, If keeping the law of a Sabbatical day was a moral law of God, there would be the establishment of it in the epistles to the NT Church. Instead, the mention of a sabbath in the epistles are in verses like this one in Colossians.
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