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Old 07-05-2018, 01:05 PM
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Re: Are Beards The Mark Of The Beast?

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I don't know. Even though Addison responded that way, she was genuinely upset on the way home. She told me she didn't want to go again because the church is mean. I've explained that mean people are everywhere you go. I asked her if any kids in the house churches we've been to were "mean" and she explained that sometimes they were, but, "not that kind of mean". When I probed deeper, I discovered that in the house churches kids tease and taunt about their shoes, who farted, who is smart or popular. But none ever relegated anyone to Hell over anything. It was like playground teasing. Not behaviors patterned after spiritually abusive concepts. Her assessment is still, "They look weird and they're mean." I told both of them that the people in this church were really nice people who were serious about living for God. She's picked that up from just about three to four Sunday services based on how they treated her and each other. She rambled quite a bit about things these kids said to others that they knew that just weren't right. But I told her, "no human institution is perfect".
This sounds like the stories I've read online where some liberal parent claims their small toddler has authored a well-written statement for/against _________ [fill in the blank]. And when you read it, you find out it suspiciously mimics the parent's previous comments/statements.

That's what I'm seeing here. I've read your comments about church and what you claim your daughter said, mirrors those things. I'm not saying your daughter didn't say these things. I'm just saying that what she said was not done so without hearing you complain about these very things. She's obviously heard what you've said, either to the family or what you thought was in private with your wife, and now she's parroting them.

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Yes and yes. From what I gathered, the ladies seemed nice enough. She didn't elaborate. But all these conversations last about 15 minutes after service. Then everyone leaves. A few mentioned going out to eat. But we don't have the money to go out to eat all the time, and Chris doesn't like to eat fast food, so we just go home. It really feels like a show, bro. A sincere show, with meaning, and with people who truly love it, but a show nonetheless.
Some people have families and full time jobs and aren't able to invite people over for discussions which would last over an hour or two. That doesn't mean it's a show or they're fake or plastic.

The church we currently attend has services Wednesday and twice on Sunday. I work FT and usually don't have time during the week to engage in fellowship. Friday evening and Saturday are the only days I have to visit family and others -- and even then, most of the time we spend those days cleaning and doing upkeep around the house.

We've visited the home of a family in the church and have been invited to join others throughout our time there. But again, I work FT, my wife stays home with 3 year old twins and our older daughter and is usually exhausted by the time I'm home late in the afternoon. Now, if the kids were older or I didn't work FT, we'd probably do more visiting during the week.
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